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pangaia

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26. I am not sure I understand how the Japanese 'bombed us' in 1937.
Sat Feb 8, 2014, 10:55 AM
Feb 2014

I am not deeply familiar with Chinese history in the 1st half of the 20th Century.
I have read "Soong Dynasty", "The Man Who Loved China," and am now reading "Shanghai 1937."

My wife, who is Chinese and was born during the Cultural Revolution, and I watched the 3-4 part documentary (was it produced by the BBC?) on Chinese history during the mid 20th Century. She felt it was quite accurate. Obviously she could fully understand the narration whereas I could understand only parts of it and had to mostly follow the English sub-titles.

In 1937 Nanjing was the Chinese capital and Jiang Jieshi had his headquarters there. After the Japanese 'finished' with Shanghai they moved on to Nanjing and... well we know what happened.

Obviously I am NO authority on 20th Century Chinese history, but how was what the Japanese did to Nanjing an attack on the US?

Ah, it is all so gloriously muddled. The Germans (rather right-wingers) were advising the Chinese against the Japanese and supporting Jiang..a right winger if ever there was one.. we were supporting him.. the Russians were 'sort of' supporting Mao Zedong..and on and on it goes.

Anyway. I am certainly open to learning more about the events of this period..

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I'm not sure I disagree with Hyakuta PinkTiger Feb 2014 #1
Are you nuts? Dropping the A-bomb saved more lives than can be determined. Nanjing to Seoul Feb 2014 #9
"saving lives" is debatable. Pink Tiger's denial of history is not. nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2014 #20
I am not sure I understand how the Japanese 'bombed us' in 1937. pangaia Feb 2014 #26
(His profile states he resides in China.) n/t eShirl Feb 2014 #29
During the siege of of Nanjing, the Japanese Air Force bombed the USS Pinay Nanjing to Seoul Feb 2014 #32
Actually, Stalin thought Mao was a boob and his "peasants army" was foolish Nanjing to Seoul Feb 2014 #33
That's a red herring anyway caraher Feb 2014 #11
+1. n/t Laelth Feb 2014 #14
Amazing how many Holocaust deniers there ARE out there. nt 7962 Feb 2014 #21
I'm not denying anything. PinkTiger Feb 2014 #37
Message deleted by the DU Administrators Nanjing to Seoul Feb 2014 #46
Would you like to try to find images of Dresden and Tokyo after the fire bombings? kristopher Feb 2014 #51
Dresden was a military target. Nanjing to Seoul Feb 2014 #56
Neither Dresden nor Tokyo were *legitimate* military targets. kristopher Feb 2014 #60
It's about Japanese denying Rape of Nanking & POW treatment, etc. Not about A-bomb. nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2014 #15
Deny this: Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2014 #18
It's a nice article. . .slim on actual data and very sanitized Nanjing to Seoul Feb 2014 #48
The decision was the President's and his alone. Interestingly enough, as VP. Truman was not briefed 24601 Feb 2014 #39
Naoki Hyakuta says Japan was lured into the Second World War by America while liberating Asia from w bananas Feb 2014 #2
colonialism had nothing to do with it cvoogt Feb 2014 #10
Yes. Replace white "masters" with "Japanese" masters. Nanjing to Seoul Feb 2014 #49
I'm guessing you aren't very familiar with the global history of colonialism. kristopher Feb 2014 #53
Oh Jesus Christ, buddy. I'm a World History teacher getting a PhD in Chinese History Nanjing to Seoul Feb 2014 #57
I pity your students then. kristopher Feb 2014 #58
Go away. I have no interest in debating revisionists like you who insult my teaching ability Nanjing to Seoul Feb 2014 #61
You insult other posters then get mad when you are insulted. former9thward Feb 2014 #62
I think we have the answer to that already kristopher Feb 2014 #63
Word. freshwest Feb 2014 #3
Japan was working on their own nuclear weapon that they would have used against us if they could. Lasher Feb 2014 #4
I studied under one of the men involved in one of the A-bomb projects psychopomp Feb 2014 #17
Was Professor Toyoda associated with the Navy's F-Go Project? Lasher Feb 2014 #38
This is just so typically right-wing crap kevinbgoode1 Feb 2014 #5
Well said. n/t Laelth Feb 2014 #16
+1. That's worthy of adding to your journal. nt Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2014 #19
Yes it is typical RW crap; but your opinions are also redolent of US rightist mythology. kristopher Feb 2014 #31
I bet Abe will find away to get around condoning what this guy said davidpdx Feb 2014 #6
It seems Abe got the NHK management fired and put in RW cronies. Kablooie Feb 2014 #40
And the Holocaust never happened either. edbermac Feb 2014 #7
Are you fucking kidding me??? Nanjing to Seoul Feb 2014 #8
+1. Well said. (nt) Paladin Feb 2014 #22
Just goes to show you mdbl Feb 2014 #12
Unit 731.... madrchsod Feb 2014 #13
Not quite right; the Allies did prosecute several Japanese and 7 were executed. 7962 Feb 2014 #23
My uncle guarded Japanese War Criminals in Japan after the war ended Stainless Feb 2014 #52
thanks... madrchsod Feb 2014 #64
Oh. . .yes. THat's the medical experimentation in Dongbei Nanjing to Seoul Feb 2014 #24
Abe and his cronies are pissing off GP6971 Feb 2014 #25
So, Japan has their own Glenn Beck. enki23 Feb 2014 #27
Every society has trolls. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2014 #34
But Japan's Becks are doing this with the governments blessing. Kablooie Feb 2014 #41
This is dumber than Chris Christie.. Stuart G Feb 2014 #28
Typical use of stirred up nationalism to divert attention from internal problems. DamnYankeeInHouston Feb 2014 #30
+1 kristopher Feb 2014 #35
The Filipinos I live and work with have very mackerel Feb 2014 #36
Ask them about Manila in 1945. Nanjing to Seoul Feb 2014 #50
"Traditional" cultures are usually filled with ignorance and militant Dawson Leery Feb 2014 #42
The "Tea Party" Of Japan DallasNE Feb 2014 #43
Why would we believe anything ANY right winger anywhere says? nt valerief Feb 2014 #44
What would be the point of going EC Feb 2014 #45
Bullshit on one of the highest orders! sakabatou Feb 2014 #47
A Japanese Teabagger!! OregonBlue Feb 2014 #54
Believe it or not, many Japanese actually believe this. RandySF Feb 2014 #55
The Japanese exchange student my parents had 15 years ago came home crying Nanjing to Seoul Feb 2014 #59
live by the sword rafeh1 Feb 2014 #65
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