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JDPriestly

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25. I have never heard that in my life. Maybe that is the Southern or Texas version, but I never
Mon Feb 10, 2014, 03:11 AM
Feb 2014

heard that anywhere. And I lived in the South for some years.

As generally understood, the person accusing (the "pot&quot is understood to share some quality with the target of their accusation (the "kettle&quot . The pot is mocking the kettle for a little soot when the pot itself is thoroughly covered in the same.

An alternative interpretation, recognised by some,[1][2] but not all,[3] sources is that the pot is sooty (being placed on a fire), while the kettle is clean and shiny (being placed on coals only), and hence when the pot accuses the kettle of being black, it is the pot’s own sooty reflection that it sees: the pot accuses the kettle of a fault that only the pot has, rather than one that they share. This is also an outdated statement, since most pots & kettles are of metallic or ceramic materials. (See also: Psychological Projection)

The following poem can be found in the schoolbook Maxwell's Elementary Grammar from 1904.

"Oho!" said the pot to the kettle;
"You are dirty and ugly and black!
Sure no one would think you were metal,
Except when you're given a crack."

"Not so! not so!" kettle said to the pot;
"'Tis your own dirty image you see;
For I am so clean – without blemish or blot –
That your blackness is mirrored in me."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_pot_calling_the_kettle_black

It's about a pot and a kettle and has no racist connotations in the usages I have heard. It is an extremely common expression. Nor every reference to "black" is racist. Far from it.

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I would have two words for them: Radio silence Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2014 #2
Love it! SunSeeker Feb 2014 #12
I would have 4 words and a number on my answering machine/voice mail: ReRe Feb 2014 #21
The constitution gives suspected criminals the right to see the evidence against them. iandhr Feb 2014 #3
Don't worry. The rules in federal court cases provide for the exchange of documents and JDPriestly Feb 2014 #4
The documents are there, she just refused the "invitation to a private interview" George II Feb 2014 #7
He needs to take it up with the US Attorney's office. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2014 #14
Yeah it's called discovery & doesn't come until giftedgirl77 Feb 2014 #28
Prepare for attempted Character assassination attempts on Mayor Zimmer diabeticman Feb 2014 #5
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I hear she once left a messy table in her High School cafeteria. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2014 #15
They'll go back to Cha Feb 2014 #18
Good on Mayor Dawn Zimmer! Cha Feb 2014 #8
Kicked and Recommending! sheshe2 Feb 2014 #10
What Is The Purpose Of Mastro's Stunt DallasNE Feb 2014 #11
Anyone who thinks it is racist hasn't cooked on a gas or wood stove. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #20
The Full Quote Is "Pot calling kettle black ass" DallasNE Feb 2014 #24
I have never heard that in my life. Maybe that is the Southern or Texas version, but I never JDPriestly Feb 2014 #25
Yes, Sharing The Same Quality As A Black Ass DallasNE Feb 2014 #26
I've only known the two Wikipedia definitions that I quoted. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #27
I've lived all over the country and never once heard what you're referring to. Your family okaawhatever Feb 2014 #29
It's a very common expression, I've heard it hundreds, if not thousands, of times..... George II Feb 2014 #33
Yeah, but they're discussing "crack" so.... George II Feb 2014 #32
"It Takes One To Know One" DallasNE Feb 2014 #38
My mother used the phrase 'pot calling the kettle black' and she was from Australia. Demit Feb 2014 #39
No, Christie, she's not letting you get info to coach your liars...er...witnesses. nt SunSeeker Feb 2014 #13
A sitdown with the Capo di tutti capi, huh? I don't think so. DeSwiss Feb 2014 #16
What An Interesting Letter.... Laxman Feb 2014 #17
A team that includes five former federal prosecutors? JDPriestly Feb 2014 #22
So This Is An Example Of What Taxpayers In New Jersey Get For $650 An Hour DallasNE Feb 2014 #19
5 former prosecutors. That's incredible. And maybe not too smart. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #23
Well, what did they get for the extra $25 million they spent for the Booker election? Nothing except okaawhatever Feb 2014 #30
Standard discovery techniques. If you provide info to prosecutors, same info must be given to yellowcanine Feb 2014 #31
Only after an indictment leftynyc Feb 2014 #35
If they want the documents from Zimmerman why don't they just ask the US Prosecutor bigdarryl Feb 2014 #34
I may be wrong, but she didn't balk at providing documents, just giving them an "interview" George II Feb 2014 #36
I have to check on that because Steve reported she gave them documents also bigdarryl Feb 2014 #37
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