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5. Not necessarily
Sat Feb 15, 2014, 01:47 AM
Feb 2014

They earn more at VW in Tennessee without a union than their unionized counterparts in Detroit. Perhaps they couldn't see a benefit of being in a union and paying union dues if that is the case. The company would have liked the union because it would allow them to set up works councils, cooperative groups that work well in Germany but are banned in the U.S. unless there is a union in the plant. In any event, it's the workers who would be effected by the decision who have made their choice and to call them brainwashed idiots assumes you know better than they do what is right for them. I'm pretty sure they would have cast their vote based on all the information available and if the union didn't make a strong enough case for certification, they will have to try harder next time.

Yep. blue neen Feb 2014 #1
Tennessee auto workers... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #2
Either that or they had guns to their heads. There could be no other explanation for voting against valerief Feb 2014 #3
Probably a little of both... awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #4
The explanation is over one hundred years of anti-union propaganda. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #9
Of course there is. The South in general has shown a pattern of voting against their own lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #10
Not necessarily OnlinePoker Feb 2014 #5
Disagree! ... busterbrown Feb 2014 #6
It is an internet tradition to call your opponents "idiots" and far worse. former9thward Feb 2014 #8
So? In general people do NOT insult other people in person. This is a forum of progressives which lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #11
Adults do not insult each other in person. former9thward Feb 2014 #13
I have heard progressives call Obama a "con" man, and other insults in a public forum. republicans lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #15
No, elected officials do not do that person to person. former9thward Feb 2014 #17
Pete Stark. He called rep nancy johnson (R-Conn) a "whore for the insurance industry", in a private lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #21
Like in the 2008 primaries when Senator Obama told Senator Clinton that she was "likable enough." 24601 Feb 2014 #18
You equate that with internet name calling? former9thward Feb 2014 #19
You ask a good question that deserves a direct answer. I consider it worse because of 24601 Feb 2014 #20
Related to this is the swilton Feb 2014 #14
SCUM BAG Corker gets his Snout in the Fray warrant46 Feb 2014 #7
To Celebrate the occasion VW... gerogie2 Feb 2014 #12
Congrats to them Union Scribe Feb 2014 #16
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