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Blue_Tires

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85. Agreed...
Mon Feb 17, 2014, 03:31 PM
Feb 2014

I've been wanting this discussion to get past the occasional "so-and-so is spying on so-and-so" leak and fast-forward to the "connecting-the-dots/who benefits/and what should be done about them" -phase...Name names and expose everyone involved from every national government and every boardroom...

Although it has to be said that if Greenwald's version of events was true and one of the Guardian's most experienced and respected correspondents set up an interview under false pretenses just to get a jumpstart on publishing a book (by a Guardian-owned publishing house, no less)...That is a *HUGE* accusation to make and *HUGE* story requiring an in-depth look into Guardian management...

And therein lies the problem -- Greenwald doesn't get to flip a switch from the hysterical, half-truth, thin-skinned, I'm-always-right, pulling unfounded accusations out of his ass, never admits error or fault -persona to the upright defender of press freedom and courageous protector of individual rights without the waters getting murky...

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He is Greenwald BeyondGeography Feb 2014 #1
Then , reads the book... pkdu Feb 2014 #2
Follow the link to TPM... DonViejo Feb 2014 #3
"New" Journalism OilemFirchen Feb 2014 #10
Correct. FSogol Feb 2014 #11
A knee-jerk reaction from someone who suffers from delusions of ownership BeyondGeography Feb 2014 #17
Oh god. joshcryer Feb 2014 #42
I disagree... Helen Borg Feb 2014 #46
Who, or what, are you disagreeing with? eom DonViejo Feb 2014 #54
This Helen Borg Feb 2014 #55
There are two distinctly different trains of thought contained in that paragraph... DonViejo Feb 2014 #56
Yes, #1 Helen Borg Feb 2014 #67
GG's pissed, cuz he has exclusive rights to Snowie's story! "Don't step on my book sales, Geoff". Tarheel_Dem Feb 2014 #4
He's pissed because Harding scooped him...and Harding is hated by the FSB and Wikileaks.... msanthrope Feb 2014 #59
Oh well, if he has pissed off the FSB, he' my new hero. Tarheel_Dem Feb 2014 #60
He wrote a book about that provides excellent insight into the FSB's criminality.... msanthrope Feb 2014 #62
Bookmarking. I'll definitely have to check that out. Thanks. Tarheel_Dem Feb 2014 #66
Glenn wants leftynyc Feb 2014 #5
It's his cash cow Renew Deal Feb 2014 #6
Yup leftynyc Feb 2014 #12
Greeny Greeny Greeny, snooper2 Feb 2014 #7
Wait a sec... Helen Borg Feb 2014 #8
Yes. Greenwald is all about the dolla dolla bill $$$$$$$$. nt Cali_Democrat Feb 2014 #13
You don't have to meet a person to write a book about them. hrmjustin Feb 2014 #9
Greenwald is also implying with that statement Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #15
I understand he feels like this is his story but he doesn't own it and he should accept others hrmjustin Feb 2014 #16
At least Greenwald met Snowden. Apparently the author of the book did not. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #22
I've seen nothing gossip-y in the excerpt nor in Harding's previous work, Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #23
Books that are written about contemporaneous figures without ever talking to the subject of the JDPriestly Feb 2014 #24
Either way, unless Greenwald says something in the book is WRONG Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #26
Did you miss this, Blue_Tires?... DonViejo Feb 2014 #27
Even worse...So Greenwald shoots off the mouth without having fully read it Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #28
Snowden's own posts on the internet are first hand sources. KittyWampus Feb 2014 #41
"It shouldn't be all that difficult to call Snowden or somehow arrange to contact him." George II Feb 2014 #50
I think that a biographical study of a living person should be based on some direct contact with tha JDPriestly Feb 2014 #31
If that's the type of thing that makes you suspicious Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #32
Greenwald helped Snowden. I am more interested in what Snowden had to say than I am in JDPriestly Feb 2014 #33
Agreed... Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #85
Mr. Harding was denied entry to Russia, and later harassed, along with his family, by the FSB..... msanthrope Feb 2014 #57
There were alternatives. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #68
Right...because the FSB is going to allow Snowden to talk to Harding. msanthrope Feb 2014 #69
Sorry. He visited Greenwald in Brazil. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #70
The FSB threw Harding out of the country after he exposed FSB collusion with organized crime, and yo msanthrope Feb 2014 #71
Did the author of the book even try? JDPriestly Feb 2014 #72
Who, precisely, is Mr. Snowden's British attorney? You've made this claim, and you refuse to msanthrope Feb 2014 #73
I have assumed she is British because of her accent. He now has a Russian attorney. JDPriestly Feb 2014 #81
Jennifer Robinson is not Snowden's attorney. Sarah Harrison is not an attorney, at all. msanthrope Feb 2014 #82
I corrected my error on Chile. He is in Brazil. I watched a great video on Chile very JDPriestly Feb 2014 #83
Seriously? You are going down even more of a rabbit hole. Are you suggesting that the attorney who msanthrope Feb 2014 #84
"At least Greenwald met Snowden. Apparently the author of the book did not." George II Feb 2014 #38
You should hear what Sibel Edmonds has to say about GG's "Checkbook Journalism". Tarheel_Dem Feb 2014 #61
I've always wondered if the Guardian management had any regrets Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #14
The Guardian has taken some justified hits because of Greenwald. OilemFirchen Feb 2014 #25
Indeed...they made an economic decision to get the online clicks that Greenwald generated, but msanthrope Feb 2014 #29
Luke Harding is an EXCELLENT journalist. MinneapolisMatt Feb 2014 #18
And people here leftynyc Feb 2014 #19
And Greenwald STILL didn't hesitate a second before Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #20
Now if Snowden returns to the U.S. to face trial... randome Feb 2014 #21
I have two predictions for this year... msanthrope Feb 2014 #49
He's already come up with a phony excuse for being in Brazil instead of the US George II Feb 2014 #51
I trust your predictions more than anything Greenwald or Snowden have to say! randome Feb 2014 #63
Well, we should not get too upset sadoldgirl Feb 2014 #30
Why is this in LBN? Hissyspit Feb 2014 #34
Why not? nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #47
Why not? It fully meets the requirements of posting in the LBN area: DonViejo Feb 2014 #53
Weighing the truthes exposed debunkthis Feb 2014 #35
Really? OilemFirchen Feb 2014 #36
The man has the balls to take on the NSA's illegal spying activities. debunkthis Feb 2014 #39
More accurately he protects Bush-Cheney by pinning their crimes on Obama. ucrdem Feb 2014 #43
Who gives a flying F? Maybe he should go back to the UK and dispute it? George II Feb 2014 #37
In other words, it's the same gossip-mongering horseshit JoeyT Feb 2014 #40
So, you disagree with Greenwald?... DonViejo Feb 2014 #52
Hey Glenn davidpdx Feb 2014 #44
So, specifically... Helen Borg Feb 2014 #45
The part on the cover that doesn't say 'By Glenn Greenwald'. randome Feb 2014 #48
The OP is nothing more than an excuse for Greenwald-haters to wank off. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #58
I have a question for you..and it's a serious one. Luke Harding was expelled by the FSB msanthrope Feb 2014 #64
+10000 This is the correct answer. The smear machine must smear. woo me with science Feb 2014 #65
How is it gossip Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #86
Says the kneejerking, bullshiting, lying, ratfucker. Cha Feb 2014 #74
Would you tell me how you really feel!? sheshe2 Feb 2014 #77
That's about it, Cha Feb 2014 #78
P.S. Cha Feb 2014 #79
Well~ sheshe2 Feb 2014 #80
I wonder how Truthout will weigh in on this. Whisp Feb 2014 #75
Go fuck yourself, GG, you scamming friggen weasel. n/t Whisp Feb 2014 #76
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