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4. I have to get to a computer...not a smartphone, but this is an epic

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Wed Feb 19, 2014, 10:16 AM

Feb 2014

smackdown of GG....I cannot wait to post excerpts...

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UK Court: David Miranda Detention Legal Under Terrorism Law [View all] Hissyspit Feb 2014 OP

We are all "terrorists" now. It is the MIC that 'hates our freedoms' and revels in secrecy, IMHO. grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #1

As are most governments. merrily Feb 2014 #2

GG must be furious...the decision rips him apart in a manner that leaves no doubt msanthrope Feb 2014 #3

I have to get to a computer...not a smartphone, but this is an epic msanthrope Feb 2014 #4

Really? You aren't embarrassed by your gushing support of the surveillance state muriel_volestrangler Feb 2014 #5

Mr. Greenwald chose the venue of the courts, and I am pleased that his Libertarian msanthrope Feb 2014 #7

Your gleeful hatred of liberty and journalism is noted muriel_volestrangler Feb 2014 #8

Libertarianism, yes. And having the addresses and names of officers in the field is a reason msanthrope Feb 2014 #10

What you are attacking is liberty; the freedom of the press, and freedom of movement muriel_volestrangler Feb 2014 #13

What is your Liberty interest in stolen property? Greenwald could have published from msanthrope Feb 2014 #14

The documents are evidence of wrong-doing by my government, and yours muriel_volestrangler Feb 2014 #17

Luke Harding??? The guy Greenwald is pissed off at for writing a Snowden book? msanthrope Feb 2014 #18

Yeah, Luke Harding - you don't have to be Greenwald's best friend to oppose this ruling muriel_volestrangler Feb 2014 #19

Nonsense--they had no court presence, at all. And being an interested party is the msanthrope Feb 2014 #20

Let an English law group explain it to you: muriel_volestrangler Feb 2014 #22

You need to read more than one paragraph...under Paragraph 11, the Guardian clearly could have msanthrope Feb 2014 #23

You want to know why Greenwald is complaining that his spouse was detained and threatened muriel_volestrangler Feb 2014 #24

Look..you and I have a differing opinion on how the law would apply. I merely msanthrope Feb 2014 #26

What Greenwald says about the Guardian - from the final link in the OP: muriel_volestrangler Feb 2014 #30

Please..this is Glenn..who thinks the Guardian "demonized" Assange.... msanthrope Feb 2014 #32

The 'cite' you asked for would be irrelevant muriel_volestrangler Feb 2014 #36

No...the cite I asked for pretty much demolishes the whinging. Which is why you won't provide it. msanthrope Feb 2014 #40

I'm sick to death of this moronic argument leftynyc Feb 2014 #31

I thank you. I've not written a word supporting illegal surveillance, but I'm not hooking my star t msanthrope Feb 2014 #33

You don't have to write the actual words to do it. Hissyspit Feb 2014 #53

msanthrope is gleeful that the state can confiscate personal possessions muriel_volestrangler Feb 2014 #34

If the charge were only against one poster leftynyc Feb 2014 #45

Ridiculous. Hissyspit Feb 2014 #54

Here, Here. +10,000 nt okaawhatever Feb 2014 #64

This is not about 'libertarianism' as usually defined LeftishBrit Feb 2014 #41

Um no...I think Greenwald's "constitutional duties" argument is pure American libertarian. nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #43

Now it's a small "L?" Hissyspit Feb 2014 #56

Big L....autofill. And no refutation, huh?? nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #57

You can always re-edit auto fill errors. Hissyspit Feb 2014 #58

Well, some of us work for a living...nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #59

He is not a Libertarian. Hissyspit Feb 2014 #25

Indeed..his argument regarding constitutional duty is purely Libertarian. nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #28

Hunh? Hissyspit Feb 2014 #6

And Justices Ouseley and Openshaw???? You may not like Judge Laws, but what about the rest? nt msanthrope Feb 2014 #11

The same legal rationale the Egyptian military junta is using to detain Al Jazeera journalists riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #9

David Miranda wasn't a journalist...he was a courier in possession of stolen documents. Which the msanthrope Feb 2014 #12

I'd argue that detention of journalists' family members is just as bad riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #15

There really isn't a liberty interest in stolen property you were going to use for a book. msanthrope Feb 2014 #16

I'm not going to re-hash what muriel volestrangler has already posted to rebut your points riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #27

I'm back on a smartphone that won't allow me to excerpt....some of us work for a living.... msanthrope Feb 2014 #29

Oh you own your position, I'm not doing your work for you. riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #37

Here you go... msanthrope Feb 2014 #42

and what kind of lowlife would put their family member in such a spot? Whisp Feb 2014 #35

LOL, that's all ya got? Back to slamming the source with zero comment on the issue? riderinthestorm Feb 2014 #38

GG is a scammer making money off of stolen classified files. Whisp Feb 2014 #39

Even if true Hissyspit Feb 2014 #52

Miranda did it of his own free well and volition. Hissyspit Feb 2014 #51

The key issue regarding Snowden/Greenwald, Manning, Assange et al. is this: Maedhros Feb 2014 #21

Summary of the whole debate in a nutshell!!! :-) grahamhgreen Feb 2014 #44

Manning's automated download of 750K file, or Snowden's automated download of 1.7 million, struggle4progress Feb 2014 #48

As I mentioned in my post, Maedhros Feb 2014 #50

Hunh? Hissyspit Feb 2014 #55

It doesn't seem a particularly tricky point to me but YMMV struggle4progress Feb 2014 #60

I comprehend it completely. Hissyspit Feb 2014 #61

"I had no time to look at the documents I'm releasing but I'm sure they're evidence of a crime" struggle4progress Feb 2014 #62

This really sucks for people who internationally traffic in stolen classified documents! struggle4progress Feb 2014 #46

That's hardly the whole issue. Hissyspit Feb 2014 #47

Something like that seems to have been the issue before the court struggle4progress Feb 2014 #49

Upon further review Blue_Tires Feb 2014 #63