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amandabeech

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26. It seems that areas that saw the worst fighting in WWII are having problems.

Thu Feb 20, 2014, 03:59 PM

Feb 2014

The Japanese and the Chinese are at it again. Now southeastern Europe.

What I find interesting is the seeming attempts by both the Chinese and the Yukanovych (sp) faction in Ukraine to use WWII terms to defend themselves. I'm sure you both are well aware of current reports, but there was an OpEd in the Telegraph (of all places) a few weeks ago in which the Chinese ambassador to the UK urged the UK to join with China once again against the Japanese as they did in WWII.

Of course, some of the problems in WWII had much, much older origins.

You just wait because a minute the Bosnians and the Serbs will go after each other in Sarajevo. Oh, wait. They just did.

I wasn't around during the previous two 20th century general wars. I hope that I won't be around for another series in the 21st.

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Ukraine: Protesters capture 67 police in Kiev [View all] bemildred Feb 2014 OP

One Does Like To See Signs Of Equality In A Scrap, Sir.... The Magistrate Feb 2014 #1

Yes Sir. bemildred Feb 2014 #4

It is A Hard One To Judge, Sir The Magistrate Feb 2014 #6

Yep. Several chunks speaking of breaking off as we speak. bemildred Feb 2014 #7

Population Was So Badly Shuffled About In The Region, Sir The Magistrate Feb 2014 #8

Yes. bemildred Feb 2014 #9

It seems that areas that saw the worst fighting in WWII are having problems. amandabeech Feb 2014 #26

Yes. bemildred Feb 2014 #28

My mother was a young woman during WWII. amandabeech Feb 2014 #52

My Dad had his leg half-blown off at Vimy Ridge in WWI. bemildred Feb 2014 #53

And I thought generations on my father's side of the family were long. amandabeech Feb 2014 #56

My youngest was born when I was 41. I can't imagine being 53 with an infant to raise. bemildred Feb 2014 #58

Your Dad sounds like the corker! amandabeech Feb 2014 #60

That is nice country, up there. nt bemildred Feb 2014 #63

But winters in the upper Great Lakes areas are cold and snowy. amandabeech Feb 2014 #64

Yes, you have to like snow. bemildred Feb 2014 #65

Yes, that about sums it up. amandabeech Feb 2014 #66

And modestly priced too. With plenty of firewood, and deer if you like to hunt. bemildred Feb 2014 #68

All very, very nice. amandabeech Feb 2014 #78

Meant to reply to you, but replied to myself. amandabeech Feb 2014 #57

My father-in-law suffered a similar injury at Stalingrad. DFW Feb 2014 #69

Thank you for sharing. I agree. bemildred Feb 2014 #70

My father-in-law absolutely refused to talk about his combat experience DFW Feb 2014 #72

Yep. Got infections, lost all his teeth. Long convalescence. But he pulled through. bemildred Feb 2014 #73

He came back alive DFW Feb 2014 #74

Yes. I know. bemildred Feb 2014 #75

Considering what happened to my wife's family DFW Feb 2014 #76

A much better idea. nt bemildred Feb 2014 #77

I thank your father for his service, wherever his soul resides. amandabeech Feb 2014 #79

Father-in-law, and he wouldn't want you to. He was not proud of what he had been sent to do. DFW Feb 2014 #81

I'm sorry. I think that I totally misread your posts. Please accept my apology. n/t amandabeech Feb 2014 #82

Not a problem DFW Feb 2014 #83

My sister-in-law was born in Germany during the war. bemildred Feb 2014 #84

We are, anyway. DFW Feb 2014 #85

You summed up my confusion. amandabeech Feb 2014 #86

Neither Hitler nor Stalin acknowledged the notion that there could be such a thing DFW Feb 2014 #87

Protestors tossed firebombs, like the deadly barrage that engulfed a police vehicle two days ago Fred Sanders Feb 2014 #2

The police torturing arrested protesters doesn't count? DetlefK Feb 2014 #3

We agree that they seem to be pretty good at it too. nt bemildred Feb 2014 #5

Cheering on people like the ultra-conservative "Right Sector" faction? another_liberal Feb 2014 #13

Projecting like mad are you? bemildred Feb 2014 #20

Such a weak attempt . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #21

Yawn. nt bemildred Feb 2014 #23

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Calling them protesters by this point is quite a stretch. Joe Shlabotnik Feb 2014 #31

No, I doubt it. another_liberal Feb 2014 #34

If cops shot at me with kalashnikovs, I might toss something back at them, too... countryjake Feb 2014 #67

snipers in this case? heaven05 Feb 2014 #10

I saw an image that said it was christx30 Feb 2014 #80

I believe I hear the fat lady singing.... Xolodno Feb 2014 #11

To compare the Ukraine with U.S. is absurd 1000words Feb 2014 #15

Technically... Xolodno Feb 2014 #16

You didn't answer Xlodno's question . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #17

It is useless to address hypotheticals 1000words Feb 2014 #18

That, my friend, is what I would call . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #19

Just not biting, that's all. 1000words Feb 2014 #39

A somewhat better dodge . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #41

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I will take that as . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #46

I know, I know jamzrockz Feb 2014 #54

Welcome to DU, jamzrockz! another_liberal Feb 2014 #62

Pathetic response. You either believe arson is free speech or you don't. SolutionisSolidarity Feb 2014 #51

This right here is the problem. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2014 #29

If the logic applies there, why doesn't apply here? another_liberal Feb 2014 #32

If they were protesting over the current situation in this country... Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2014 #35

If they have a somewhat valid complaint, then it's OK . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #38

No. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2014 #40

Last data concerning Ukrainian polling reported less than half in favor of the protests. another_liberal Feb 2014 #42

It's clear Yanukoych no longer believes in democracy. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2014 #44

If that is the case . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #45

When you've got live ammunition snipers shooting at protesters, it's pretty clear.... Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2014 #47

That's a bit narrow minded.... Xolodno Feb 2014 #49

If we continue to support the violent overthrow of democratically elected governments . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #14

I think it was about thirty years ago, or thereabouts, when Reagan came in, bemildred Feb 2014 #22

I don't agree that our democracy, ". . . was taken away." another_liberal Feb 2014 #24

Yeah, that was clear in post #14. nt bemildred Feb 2014 #33

Ukraine's best bet... Xolodno Feb 2014 #25

The Russians provide a huge proportion of the natural gas used in Germany. amandabeech Feb 2014 #27

I agree, said as much a couple weeks ago. You want to play them off against each other. bemildred Feb 2014 #30

Maybe thats the whole issue there...Peace. Xolodno Feb 2014 #36

Yes. bemildred Feb 2014 #37

A true peace-time economy? DFW Feb 2014 #71

what did the US government have to gain by having Ukraine firmly siding with the west? dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #48

Yep, that's pretty much it, and that is motivated mostly by cold war nostalgia. nt bemildred Feb 2014 #50

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The latest Presidential election in Ukraine . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #61

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