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27. Contrary to common snickering ignorance, prison is not one running rape-orgy

Wed Dec 21, 2011, 06:05 PM

Dec 2011

First off, it's cruel and illiberal to see any irony in someone, even a killer, getting sexually assaulted. He's a bad person and deserves to be punished. He's basically losing his youth. That's an appropriate punishment. But dragging in the old canard about anal rape in prison as a part of that punishment is an insult to the values that most of us on this board believe in. Secondly, it doesn't happen as much as you imagine.

I hope you eventually come to see that jokes about prison rape are also nothing to be smug about. It's a hurtful subject that far too many people, both on this board and in the larger society. It's not a fit subject for humor or snarky asides. In a better world, prison would be a place where we reformed those criminals who can be reformed. In a better world, abuse would not be part of the punishment meted out to even the worst criminals.

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Teen gets 21 years in prison for killing gay classmate [View all] Blue_Tires Dec 2011 OP

Wow. Gee, sure hope that hatred was worth it. HughBeaumont Dec 2011 #1

I wonder how much of his hate was learnt from home Blue_Tires Dec 2011 #2

A lot of it. I live in Oxnard and.... arbusto_baboso Dec 2011 #26

Thanks for the insight... Blue_Tires Dec 2011 #29

Ugh. The kid was doomed then. tblue Dec 2011 #32

What is truly sad about this Versailles Dec 2011 #3

Could go another way. hang a left Dec 2011 #4

Just out of curiosity, enlightenment Dec 2011 #5

Because he was 14 at the time of the crime. hang a left Dec 2011 #19

His hatred of gay will make it very prominent in his life Mr. Sinister Dec 2011 #6

'Prison rape' is not the same as 'gay sex' Cal Carpenter Dec 2011 #7

of course Mr. Sinister Dec 2011 #10

Contrary to common snickering ignorance, prison is not one running rape-orgy Bucky Dec 2011 #27

I wasn't trying to laugh at this misguided child's misfortune Mr. Sinister Dec 2011 #33

And to reiterate my previous point Mr. Sinister Dec 2011 #34

There have been quite a few prison rape jokes on DU over the yrs and most posters don't like them uppityperson Dec 2011 #37

Thank you for asking instead of assuming Mr. Sinister Dec 2011 #38

Why should a 14 year old serve 17 years in prison? joeglow3 Dec 2011 #8

because he killed another kid on purpose and was old enough to know that isn't ok JI7 Dec 2011 #9

What age is that line crossed? joeglow3 Dec 2011 #14

i don't know, but once in the teens for sure JI7 Dec 2011 #17

So, death penalty for a 13 year old is no worse than for a 30 year old? joeglow3 Dec 2011 #18

i don't support the death penalty, i'm talking life in prison or more years . at the very least the JI7 Dec 2011 #20

There's a deep schism among Democrats as to the purpose of prison. Xithras Dec 2011 #11

A question for you. LiberalAndProud Dec 2011 #12

Question for you joeglow3 Dec 2011 #13

"If it is because of nature, how can you punish them?" Are you arguing for absolute arnarchy? LiberalAndProud Dec 2011 #15

A third purpose of incarceration thucythucy Dec 2011 #16

We could kind of tell which side you were on when you used words like 'narrower view', 'merely Shoe Horn Dec 2011 #23

Interesting distinction Bucky Dec 2011 #30

I notice not one word about the murdered victim or his survivors.. MicaelS Dec 2011 #35

It's usually the right that claims that if you empathize with an offender EFerrari Dec 2011 #39

Because sentencing is not all about the criminal, it's also about the victim's sense of justice... Shoe Horn Dec 2011 #22

Actually, 17 is pretty light for premeditated murder Blue_Tires Dec 2011 #24

unless... Bucky Dec 2011 #31

There's a reason we have separate juvenile and adult justice systems mainer Dec 2011 #25

agree. There is a reason why we have age of consent laws for sex. There is a reason why a 14-y/o Douglas Carpenter Dec 2011 #28

Only 21 years ? n/t UndertheOcean Dec 2011 #21

How pathetic. mactime Dec 2011 #36