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csziggy

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79. Id Spain still prosecuting their case against Bush administration members?
Tue Mar 13, 2012, 05:09 AM
Mar 2012
The Bush Six to Be Indicted
Apr 13, 2009 4:34 PM EDT
Spanish prosecutors will seek criminal charges against Alberto Gonzales and five high-ranking Bush administration officials for sanctioning torture at Guantánamo.

Spanish prosecutors have decided to press forward with a criminal investigation targeting former U.S. Attorney General Alberto Gonzales and five top associates over their role in the torture of five Spanish citizens held at Guantánamo, several reliable sources close to the investigation have told The Daily Beast. Their decision is expected to be announced on Tuesday before the Spanish central criminal court, the Audencia Nacional, in Madrid. But the decision is likely to raise concerns with the human-rights community on other points: They will seek to have the case referred to a different judge.

Both Washington and Madrid appear determined not to allow the pending criminal investigation to get in the way of improved relations.

The six defendants—in addition to Gonzales, Federal Appeals Court Judge and former Assistant Attorney General Jay Bybee, University of California law professor and former Deputy Assistant Attorney General John Yoo, former Defense Department general counsel and current Chevron lawyer William J. Haynes II, Vice President Cheney’s former chief of staff David Addington, and former Undersecretary of Defense Douglas J. Feith—are accused of having given the green light to the torture and mistreatment of prisoners held in U.S. detention in “the war on terror.” The case arises in the context of a pending proceeding before the court involving terrorism charges against five Spaniards formerly held at Guantánamo. A group of human-rights lawyers originally filed a criminal complaint asking the court to look at the possibility of charges against the six American lawyers. Baltasar Garzón Real, the investigating judge, accepted the complaint and referred it to Spanish prosecutors for a view as to whether they would accept the case and press it forward. “The evidence provided was more than sufficient to justify a more comprehensive investigation,” one of the lawyers associated with the prosecution stated.

More: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2009/04/13/the-bush-six-to-be-indicted.html


Will Bush's Torture Memo Team Face Justice in Spain?
Nancy Goldstein on January 12, 2011 - 11:33 AM ET

There may yet be justice for the victims of the post-9/11 US torture program. Just not in the United States.

Here, our previous president is enjoying terrific sales for a memoir where he boasts about having authorized waterboarding. The current administration's commitment to "moving past" the illegalities incurred on its predecessor's watch is so hardcore that the Department of Justice decided late last year against prosecuting anyone from the CIA for destroying ninety-two videotapes that showed the torture of prisoners detained as suspected terrorists. Which leaves Attorney General Eric Holder more time to subpoena Twitter records and figure out how to criminalize Julian Assange and WikiLeaks for promoting government transparency.

But perhaps there will be justice in Spain. This past Friday, the Center for Constitutional Rights filed papers urging Judge Eloy Velasco to do what the United States will not: prosecute the "Bush Six," the group of senior Bush-era government lawyers led by then–Attorney General Alberto Gonzalez, for violating international law by creating a legal framework that aided and abetted the torture of suspected terrorists. (Full disclosure: I've done consulting work for CCR.)

More: http://www.thenation.com/blog/157654/will-bushs-torture-memo-team-face-justice-spain


CCR Announces Bush Indictment for Convention Against Torture Signatory States

No Immunity for Former Presidents Under Law


Contact: press@ccrjustice.org

February 7, 2011, Geneva and New York – Today, two torture victims were to have filed criminal complaints, with more than 2,500-pages of supporting material, in Geneva against former U.S. President George W. Bush, who was due to speak at an event there on 12 February. Swiss law requires the presence of the torturer on Swiss soil before a preliminary investigation can be opened. When Bush cancelled his trip to avoid prosecution, the human rights groups who prepared the complaints made it public and announced that the Bush Torture Indictment would be waiting wherever he travels next. The Indictment serves as the basis on which to prepare country-specific, plaintiff-specific indictments, with additional evidence and updated information. According to international law experts at the New York-based Center for Constitutional Rights (CCR) and the Berlin-based European Center for Constitutional and Human Rights (ECCHR), former presidents do not enjoy special immunity under the Convention Against Torture (CAT).
“Waterboarding is torture, and Bush has admitted, without any sign of remorse, that he approved its use,” said Katherine Gallagher, Senior Staff Attorney at CCR and Vice President of the International Federation for Human Rights (FIDH). “The reach of the Convention Against Torture is wide – this case is prepared and will be waiting for him wherever he travels next. Torturers – even if they are former presidents of the United States – must be held to account and prosecuted. Impunity for Bush must end.”

More: http://ccrjustice.org/newsroom/press-releases/human-rights-groups-announce-bush-indictment-convention-against-torture-sign


Published on Sunday, January 15, 2012 by Common Dreams
Spanish Judge Reopens Guantánamo Torture Probe

- Common Dreams staff

Just days after the 10th anniversary of the Guantánamo, the notorious prison remains in the news. On Thursday, Witness Against Torture led 40 people who were arrested protesting outside of Obama's White House protesting Guantánamo and indefinite detention.

Now a Spanish judge has re-launched an investigation into the alleged torture of detainees held at the U.S. detention center.

Not much more: http://www.commondreams.org/headline/2012/01/15-2

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Is the big dick liable for arrest for war crimes in Canada as they annabanana Mar 2012 #1
Beat me too it! Remember a few days ago the thread talking about how U.S. is proscuting 2 Irish Justice wanted Mar 2012 #3
Id Spain still prosecuting their case against Bush administration members? csziggy Mar 2012 #79
thanks for the info. Justice wanted Mar 2012 #80
Just as we thought, way back when. dixiegrrrrl Mar 2012 #89
Not that I put any stock in this - but what does it fortell for former President Obama and 24601 Mar 2012 #98
I thought he was. Brattlesboro, VT had a similiar plan. freshwest Mar 2012 #8
They still do... RoccoR5955 Mar 2012 #35
Not really... But you know Darth is big on those undisclosed locations... freshwest Mar 2012 #37
It wouldnt surprise me in the least if thats why he canceled it. cstanleytech Mar 2012 #23
Don't I remember correctly that the fav Pug saying has been... Frustratedlady Mar 2012 #2
Cheney can send people to countries with guns Angry Dragon Mar 2012 #4
Fucking chicken-hawk lark Mar 2012 #88
this one? Devil_Fish Mar 2012 #91
Huh... I visited Quebec years ago and had no problems. sakabatou Mar 2012 #5
Why goodness.. pangaia Mar 2012 #28
I've been to Canada, too Aerows Mar 2012 #62
Make that three. RC Mar 2012 #73
Coward in the first degree. russspeakeasy Mar 2012 #6
Paranoid fear Sanity Claws Mar 2012 #7
Cheney a long-time alcoholic? I've never heard that. dmr Mar 2012 #18
He was arrested twice for DUI that we know about. Major Nikon Mar 2012 #22
I knew about the DUIs dmr Mar 2012 #24
hmm... chervilant Mar 2012 #74
Reports say that Cheney was drinking the day he shot Harry Whittington in the face. yardwork Mar 2012 #34
If he was not drinking when he shot a guy in the face, MsPithy Mar 2012 #39
Reading between the lines 90-percent Mar 2012 #54
''Hunting'' incident? DeSwiss Mar 2012 #77
Is Darth even admissible into Canada? KamaAina Mar 2012 #9
I had no idea he was a serial drunken driver. polly7 Mar 2012 #11
yes there's a form you buy, you're admissable if you buy your way in pitohui Mar 2012 #51
I always considered him Emperor Cheney. Bush was the Darth Vader approximate in my mind. Selatius Mar 2012 #95
Yeah- Cheney wouldn't be safe at all if he had to go to prison... WhoIsNumberNone Mar 2012 #10
LOL!! Those crazy dangerous Canadians. DCBob Mar 2012 #12
Surprising for a brave Vietnam vet . . . oh wait Faygo Kid Mar 2012 #13
SIGH one more donco Mar 2012 #14
I thought JEB Mar 2012 #15
"Spectre Live Corp." Nostradammit Mar 2012 #16
Most (anti-harper) Canadians don't understand why cheneyouR$elf Amonester Mar 2012 #17
Of course it is too dangerous for Cheney Julian Englis Mar 2012 #19
You can run, but you can't hide. Gregorian Mar 2012 #20
Cheney at the gates that is laughable ThomThom Mar 2012 #31
I know Canada has no death penalty DonCoquixote Mar 2012 #21
But they do have National Health Insurance & Gun Control BlueDemKev Mar 2012 #55
That their government is less corrupt DonCoquixote Mar 2012 #63
Yeah, well. War criminals should live in fear. Solly Mack Mar 2012 #25
+1000 baldguy Mar 2012 #47
Protesters are keeping Canada safe from the one man occupation team, Dick "The Dick" Cheney. nt GliderGuider Mar 2012 #26
He wouldn't be able to talk accurately about his experience without admitting war crimes. JBoy Mar 2012 #27
The he'd better stay away from Portland and Seattle, too. stevedeshazer Mar 2012 #29
Steve, what are those hats on the protesters? grasswire Mar 2012 #46
Nope. Wish I did.- n/t stevedeshazer Mar 2012 #48
Free speech is dangerous. Freedom of assembly is terrorism. Bucky Mar 2012 #30
He should stay home always, if Canada's not safe, it should speak volumes to him. mother earth Mar 2012 #32
......... trusty elf Mar 2012 #33
Their gain is our loss. mikeSchmuckabee Mar 2012 #36
Isn't he dead yet? thelordofhell Mar 2012 #38
I think they put new batteries in the sumbitch. I sure wish they'd over-volt lastlib Mar 2012 #69
Is there no safe place in this world for a war criminal besides the USA? nt Deep13 Mar 2012 #40
Cheney would be in danger of extradition to the Hague PuffedMica Mar 2012 #41
Canada is a beautiful, wonderful and safe country to visit..... LynneSin Mar 2012 #42
Dear Dick, Stay OUT of Canada...come to beautiful Marlboro, VT in the good ol USA... FailureToCommunicate Mar 2012 #43
See? Doc Holliday Mar 2012 #44
LOL! That piece of dog excrement Ilsa Mar 2012 #45
that's pretty chickenshit pitohui Mar 2012 #49
Yeah, right Canuckistanian Mar 2012 #50
But would he be arrested? pbrower2a Mar 2012 #93
No. Not with our government at the moment. Canuckistanian Mar 2012 #99
"The Jackal" must be living in Canada now. chrisa Mar 2012 #52
That's what happens when you act like a "Dick".... BlueDemKev Mar 2012 #53
For him it might be NICO9000 Mar 2012 #56
Not safe? JJW Mar 2012 #57
Jebus, GiveMeFreedom Mar 2012 #58
Richard Clarke is getting his wish 90-percent Mar 2012 #59
It's too bad Politicalboi Mar 2012 #61
Very, very true Canuckistanian Mar 2012 #65
Spam deleted by Morning Dew (MIR Team) safrthjt Mar 2012 #60
Quick, let's get a rain barrel for Niagra Falls... MrMickeysMom Mar 2012 #64
Chief Chickenhawk broadway515 Mar 2012 #66
"Run Chicken Run" Link Wray NBachers Mar 2012 #67
AH Ha ha har har heeeer ROFL stop it I can't take it TrogL Mar 2012 #68
Four Words: excuse not to write Mar 2012 #70
The clean air would probably kill him. Vidar Mar 2012 #71
How many former VP's have been unable to visit Canada? young_at_heart Mar 2012 #72
As rich as The Dick is, I still would hate to be him now. Jamaal510 Mar 2012 #75
Frustration! eepatt Mar 2012 #76
Brave, Brave Sir Robin RogueTrooper Mar 2012 #78
How bad a person must you be for CANADIANS to violently hate you? tclambert Mar 2012 #81
Excellent point! stubtoe Mar 2012 #84
Oh those lucky Canadians!! lunatica Mar 2012 #82
cheney is an asshole samsingh Mar 2012 #83
Even Albertans wouldn't like this asshole much........nt AverageJoe90 Mar 2012 #85
This is wonderful news freefall Mar 2012 #86
"With all their hockey hullabaloo and that bitch Anne Murray too!" edbermac Mar 2012 #87
I guess Canada The Wizard Mar 2012 #90
Dick and Liz can go fuck themselves. Just remember, Hotler Mar 2012 #92
Thanks Dick you just made Canada safer by not showing up. It's a wonder he found enough Canadians Monk06 Mar 2012 #94
Must suck to be Cheney. Legacy is war criminal, crooked businessman and incompetent hunter who shot yellowcanine Mar 2012 #96
Just like Vietnam! tabasco Mar 2012 #97
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