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BelgianMadCow

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27. Reading the comments at the Guardian article about the same subject is highly enlightening

Thu Feb 27, 2014, 12:16 PM

Feb 2014

gunmen occupy government buildings in Kiev = installation of democratic government
gunmen occupy government buildings in Simferopol = gunmen seize buildings

The commenters ridiculed the Guardian's biased headlining.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/feb/27/ukraine-pro-russian-gunmen-seize-crimea-parliament-live-updates#start-of-comments

The lack of similar comments at DU is equally telling.

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Ukraine: Gunmen seize Crimea government buildings [View all] Recursion Feb 2014 OP

Secession can only be a bloody affair. joshcryer Feb 2014 #1

Or agents provocateurs from one of any number of groups... Recursion Feb 2014 #2

Fair enough. joshcryer Feb 2014 #4

Not quite sure that follows dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #5

A prelude to Russian troops moving in cosmicone Feb 2014 #3

mother of all Greeces in terms of liabilities dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #6

Ukraine warns Russia against 'aggression' in Crimea dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #7

"Don't you attack me" says a rabbit to the wolf. n/t cosmicone Feb 2014 #8

I don't think the wolf is too worried about the rabbit's protestations or fighting ability. pampango Feb 2014 #13

A few more details . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #9

All very worrying.... T_i_B Feb 2014 #10

Yes, I have to agree. another_liberal Feb 2014 #11

Wondering if the UN could have a role to play here? T_i_B Feb 2014 #12

I don't know that rule by fascists TBF Feb 2014 #14

This message was self-deleted by its author another_liberal Feb 2014 #16

My earlier reply was inaccurate . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #17

Svoboda does not run the government. Ukrainains need to keep them marginalized but the far-right is pampango Feb 2014 #20

Yes, the UN should step in . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #15

UN is powerless because Russia will veto any resolution. cosmicone Feb 2014 #18

I hope you are wrong about Russia. another_liberal Feb 2014 #19

If Russia wants UN approval for an intervention in a foreign country, it would not veto its own pampango Feb 2014 #22

The history of Crimea isn't exactly Ukrainian. go west young man Feb 2014 #23

Nor is the history of Alaska exactly American. pampango Feb 2014 #25

The fact that they are demanding allegiance to Russia and not simply secession for East Ukraine.... Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2014 #21

Crimea was actually part of Russia until 1954 Xithras Feb 2014 #30

Actually it was its own SSR Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2014 #36

The Tartars are what, 10% of the population? Xithras Feb 2014 #38

UKRAINE CRISIS: Crimean parliament seeks referendum on enhanced powers for province dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #24

I believe the technical diplomatic term for this is alcibiades_mystery Feb 2014 #26

Reading the comments at the Guardian article about the same subject is highly enlightening BelgianMadCow Feb 2014 #27

It's because the movement is more "anti-Putin" than "pro-Ukraine". Xithras Feb 2014 #29

You have spent considerable energy in putting that into words very well. BelgianMadCow Feb 2014 #31

Lameness personified dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #37

Ukraine: Sebastapol installs pro-Russian mayor as seperatism fears grow. Xithras Feb 2014 #28

What the Ukrainian Neo-Nazi Right wants is to reconquer Europe. Coyotl Feb 2014 #32

I wish this was a joke . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #34

Scary stuff Marrah_G Feb 2014 #39

The Crimean Parliament has voted to hold a referendum on Independence from Ukraine. another_liberal Feb 2014 #33

I doubt that Russia really wants to establish a precedent that ethnic majorities in certain regions pampango Feb 2014 #35