Oklahoma father dies in police encounter after mother slaps daughter

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25. I have been in situation like that...

When I was s Security Guard at a hospital when I was in Collage, a teenager came in on PCP and he was having all types of convulsions. We had Two Security guards, four Police Officers, at least one doctor and a couple of nurses (all but the nurses being male) and we had a hard time keeping him on the table so the doctors could address the medical problem. Thus it can take six men to restrain someone, unless you want the police just to shoot such people.

The issue is what happened BEFORE the video starts, why did the police decide to restrain the victim? That is the real issue, and nothing in the video addresses that issue. The use of force shown on this video is not enough to show excess force was used. On the other hand what cause the police to use that level of force is a different question. The Video provides no insight as to THAT question, and thus does NOT show what we need to see if the actions of the Police were justified or excessive.

Furthermore when the victim was finally cuffed, most of the officers stood up and started to direct the crowd away (thus the video became one of feet instead of the victim). The actions of the Police seems to be within reasonable standards, based on this video. Other evidence may come into play, but this action is more visual for it has action, but what we need is context, and this video gives us no context.