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In reply to the discussion: Ukrainian city demolishes monument to Russian general who beat Napoleon. [View all]JackRiddler
(24,979 posts)Half the people there are Russian. The Russian general expelled the French invaders at a time when there was no independent Ukraine. All nations are constructs and right now we're seeing how incredibly stupid and destructive it is to construct too much. Russians and Ukrainians speak dialects of the same language. They are separated by variants of medieval religionism and by violent nationalist opportunists. In other words, by bullshit. Their real interests are shared. The last thing they need is to fall backward into the kind of re-nationalization and fragmentation process that massacred the people of Yugoslavia. You see the result: now a coup government of fascists and neo-liberals is negotiating an austerity program with the IMF and the EU, so that they can be fucked over by the same bastards who have been screwing Greece to the wall. And this being justified by "Glory to the Ukraine" and a bunch of dumb provocations to start a civil war among a people who were one and are now supposed to die and kill each other because they're suddenly "Ukrainians" and "Russians." Great work.