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R. Daneel Olivaw

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11. My original point was that the order for extermination of Alexander Litvinenko

Fri Feb 28, 2014, 01:25 AM

Feb 2014

most likely originated from the Kremlin.

Seeing how that isn't really a stretch my question to my wife revolved around 'if Putin can reach others, the somebody in the know might reach him as well'...sort of a MacBethian character or certainly Richard the III.

Pragmatic has nothing to do with it. I was not advocating for the US assassination of Putin. Also, Russia can't keep this mess in a bottle.

It's puppet is now in Russia. It's puppet has been indicted on the deaths of many innocent Ukrainians.

It's puppet tried to destroy records but did a horrible job; only incriminating it further.

Fuck Russia.

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Don't forget former Soviet Georgia. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2014 #1

Oh great! another_liberal Feb 2014 #3

"Who are you people!" I am one who remembers and does not forget. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2014 #5

Be that as it may, my friend . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #8

My original point was that the order for extermination of Alexander Litvinenko R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2014 #11

Sure. another_liberal Feb 2014 #15

I'm not sure that you understand anything about the Ukrainian situation. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2014 #17

Then you are wrong. another_liberal Feb 2014 #21

Please. Edjumacate me. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2014 #24

I'll tell you what . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #43

I'm an American so I don't know who your "we" is, but we're not trying to push our weight around, okaawhatever Feb 2014 #38

If a fraction of what has happened in Ukraine . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #40

I second this (okaawhatever). n/t levp Feb 2014 #47

Litvinenko was spying for the UK dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #48

He asked for asylum there levp Feb 2014 #52

Easy subject to search - try Google dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #53

Daily Mail? levp Feb 2014 #55

The US, at the highest levels, is trying to dial this back karynnj Feb 2014 #46

It's not the US that would do (or even particularly want) that Recursion Feb 2014 #7

Perhaps, but the important point is . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #12

Thanks for being able to see my point. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2014 #13

Georgia started that issue : not Russia. dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #49

This message was self-deleted by its author another_liberal Feb 2014 #2

But what about the fascists? starroute Feb 2014 #4

Great. Sounds like our own government in the USA. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2014 #6

There are some in every country levp Feb 2014 #50

Don't understand the hubris regarding Putin 1000words Feb 2014 #9

He holds all the cards cosmicone Feb 2014 #22

Bad move in the wrong neighborhood cosmicone Feb 2014 #10

Seeing how Russia is supporting Syria I see no reason why Nato should not support the Ukraine. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2014 #14

It's called having the will to make the sacrifices necessary to back up your big talk. another_liberal Feb 2014 #18

Well, I guess that everybody understands your vote for capitulation to Russia. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2014 #20

Go ahead then, hotdog . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #25

Nobody mentioned a shooting war...except for yourself. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2014 #27

What do you think you're playing at then? another_liberal Feb 2014 #44

So Russia deploys troops and fighter jets to the border penultimate Feb 2014 #28

Well yes, Russia has a god given right to former occupied Soviet territories. joshcryer Feb 2014 #31

It's got a pretty reasonable historical claim to Crimea, although the Tatars might disagree. Comrade Grumpy Feb 2014 #35

No doubt with support from other Sunni's... joshcryer Feb 2014 #36

Crimea was heavily Russified, like many other places in the former Russian Empire and USSR. Tommy_Carcetti Feb 2014 #59

Won't happen cosmicone Feb 2014 #19

I guess that my original point was lost, and I should have made it more clear. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2014 #23

There will be no NATO troops in Ukraine - period. n/t cosmicone Feb 2014 #30

Then there will be Russian troops. R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2014 #34

They have a right to support their ethnic population cosmicone Feb 2014 #37

We'll remember this when US starts it's next war levp Feb 2014 #54

We have already done that before. cosmicone Feb 2014 #58

Exactly my point levp Feb 2014 #60

This is precisely why Georgia and Ukraine are petitioning to be in NATO. joshcryer Feb 2014 #29

NATO doesn't want a conflict with Russia cosmicone Feb 2014 #32

This is why they will be perpetual "Intensified Dialogue" states. joshcryer Feb 2014 #33

The US, UK and Russia signed a treaty when Ukraine got rid of her nukes that we would okaawhatever Feb 2014 #39

Then why have we gone out of our way to meddle . . . another_liberal Feb 2014 #42

She just happened to want levp Feb 2014 #56

"we got what we wanted--no harm, no foul, eh?" MisterP Feb 2014 #16

foolish DonCoquixote Feb 2014 #26

�He�s the type of guy who can hobnob with the European elite. A Mario Monti type: unelected and jakeXT Feb 2014 #41

Once austerity measures and new debt kicks in cosmicone Feb 2014 #45

Mother of all Greeces dipsydoodle Feb 2014 #51

That is a VERY important signal to everyone involved. Will keep local people safer in the long run. Sunlei Feb 2014 #57