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33. The Tatars are in deep shee-ite, no one's coming to their defense, they'll just

Sat Mar 1, 2014, 08:39 PM

Mar 2014

have to pack up and leave if they don't like being Russian. I have read that they would want to belong to Ukraine, though. I have no doubt Putin is only looking at land and assets and bases, and I don't really think he gives a shit about ANYONE in Ukraine except as they serve his purposes. That's why I have to laugh at the assertions that he was invading to protect Russians--they are placeholders for territory, and more valuable to him in Ukraine than in Russia.

I think the new government should be allowed to fully form and hold elections in the very near future, and determine for themselves what sort of Ukraine they want (the EU/financial assistance should help guide them) and I think the eastern/pro-Russia areas should be allowed to say if they want to separate or be annexed by Russia. If there are ultra nut extremists in government, hopefully their influence can be lessened by terms and conditions of aid. Russia is trying to grab as much as it can as fast as it can until then.

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Putin Tells Obama Russia Will Act In Case of Ukraine Violence [View all] Purveyor Mar 2014 OP

The solution would be to offer them refugee status and let them into Russia-- TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #1

Do you feel the answer for Ukrainians who feel threatened newthinking Mar 2014 #2

Vlad wants to take care of them--he's willing to INVADE to protect them. TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #3

So you're advocating that ethnic Russians leave Ukraine newthinking Mar 2014 #5

Are they under "threat"? From who? TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #7

That's nuts! These are folks who were arbitrarily segregated by an artificial international border riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #13

Are they Russians, or Ukrainians? And who is harming them to the extent TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #15

The Russians in Crimea are technically Ukrainian but ethnically consider themselves Russian riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #32

The Tatars are in deep shee-ite, no one's coming to their defense, they'll just TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #33

We don't disagree however I'll bet there are folks that are going to be stuck in the middle riderinthestorm Mar 2014 #34

There may be retribution for either side depending on how it's resolved-- TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #37

Hear, Here! Well Said! 2banon Mar 2014 #40

This message was self-deleted by its author newthinking Mar 2014 #25

They're talking about PR officials and dignitaries, on the one hand. Igel Mar 2014 #35

Interesting info, thanks. TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #36

No, such people don't understand what they are saying Demeter Mar 2014 #14

Can you provide proof of the Trail of Tears in this case? Has any group been TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #18

Enjoy your stay on Ignore Demeter Mar 2014 #20

Am I interrupting the bizarre Russian propaganda machine? Sorry, LOL. TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #22

Who do we talk to about getting this Russian media propaganda off this site? It's gotten out of okaawhatever Mar 2014 #49

Reminds me of a Haaretz article from a few weeks ago Scootaloo Mar 2014 #27

So your're advocating for the forced annexation of ethnic Ukranians? It's not okay to move the okaawhatever Mar 2014 #42

I view it as a liberation from the neo-nazis continguent that has over run Purveyor Mar 2014 #4

Well, since it's been less than a week since the transitional government TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #6

They outlawed the majority party of ethnic Russians newthinking Mar 2014 #8

I don't know, is Canada going to invade America if we outlaw the TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #11

This message was self-deleted by its author newthinking Mar 2014 #24

Apparently those who only read Russian Times and RIA haven't been told the truth. Ditto the Putin okaawhatever Mar 2014 #43

Thanks, newthinking, for mentioning that oposition parties were quickly outlawed. another_liberal Mar 2014 #21

I wasn't aware of that prior to this post Scootaloo Mar 2014 #28

The so-called "Transitional Government" in Kiev . . . another_liberal Mar 2014 #29

That's odd. Igel Mar 2014 #38

Be careful with the truth around here. Some only believe what the official Putin press tells them.nt okaawhatever Mar 2014 #44

I stand corrected. It was three regions and the courts overturned it. newthinking Mar 2014 #47

The uprising was peaceful until the neo-nazis thugs showed up with weapons. Purveyor Mar 2014 #9

So they say. Why didn't Russia sign and support the peace deal? TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #12

the protests began when the President was due to sign the EU AA agreement. It was Yanukovych okaawhatever Mar 2014 #45

It didn't get violent until the anti protest law was passed. joshcryer Mar 2014 #50

You do realize they put Svoboda in charge of the defense ministry right? SolutionisSolidarity Mar 2014 #51

So if the Tea Party wins the White House, Mexico will TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #54

OK, it's just that earlier you seemed to imply that they were being maligned unfairly as NAZIs. SolutionisSolidarity Mar 2014 #56

Good post. Expressed 840high Mar 2014 #17

No, ethnic cleansing is not acceptable. JVS Mar 2014 #52

We would never do such thing jsr Mar 2014 #10

Well, never ADMIT to doing such a thing, or planning and fostering it... Demeter Mar 2014 #16

Ha! 840high Mar 2014 #19

DU rec frwrfpos Mar 2014 #23

How much? Deep North Mar 2014 #53

We do not like it but I suspect that Putin is doing this to keep "our" troops from going into a jwirr Mar 2014 #26

People being protected from their own government by foreign intervention is the essence pampango Mar 2014 #30

This is a hilarious thread. Benton D Struckcheon Mar 2014 #31

pox on both houses...? 2banon Mar 2014 #41

you think he won't go after the Baltics after this? It's one of the few ways opposing forces can get okaawhatever Mar 2014 #46

"so he can cut off gas to Europe when he feels threatened." JVS Mar 2014 #55

But Putin Is Doing Everything In His Power To Provoke Violence DallasNE Mar 2014 #39

There were several foreign policy experts saying they thought Putin would create okaawhatever Mar 2014 #48