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20. Which will not include Sevastopol.

Sat Mar 1, 2014, 09:40 PM

Mar 2014

All the Putin-defending (or Russia-defending, not that there's a big difference) notwithstanding, at some point part of Crimea that is not autonomous will either have to have an illegal uprising--the kind that Putin claims gives him rights in all of Ukraine--or Russia will have to violate an international treaty and invade part of Ukraine.

Odds are such trivia will be ignored because they're irritating and don't fit the necessary story.

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U.S. 'Suspends' Role in Russia G8 Summit After Obama, Putin Speak [View all] steve2470 Mar 2014 OP

This is what you get when you put a right-wing fascist at the helm of power: fascism & dictatorship. BlueCaliDem Mar 2014 #1

By then Crimea will have had its referendum - now due 30th March. dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #2

Self-determination would solve this. After seeing that brute slapping around an employee freshwest Mar 2014 #3

Aside from which dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #4

I think he believes in the principle above what the USA may get one way or the other. freshwest Mar 2014 #6

Interesting concept: letting people vote on which country they want to be citizens of. pampango Mar 2014 #9

Really only works in a confined area. dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #10

And if the referendum effectively changes the nationality of Crimeans pampango Mar 2014 #14

What about all the minority-majority areas? JackRiddler Mar 2014 #13

Doesn't get the approved outcome. Igel Mar 2014 #21

It's probably inevitable that this (and future) Administrations will covertly provide arewenotdemo Mar 2014 #42

I think a split may be the only peaceful way to end this. PFunk Mar 2014 #19

Which will not include Sevastopol. Igel Mar 2014 #20

OH, OH!!! That'll leave a mark...NOT! Purveyor Mar 2014 #5

What's so fucking funny? Cha Mar 2014 #15

That some how the 'west' pulling out of the G8 is a big fucking deal, that is Purveyor Mar 2014 #16

Who said it was a big fucking deal.. President Obama is taking a stand Cha Mar 2014 #17

Well, it is a big fucking deal and the only one behaving in a "funny" fashion is you on this thread. MADem Mar 2014 #25

He can get all from Italy. 840high Mar 2014 #26

"Italy" is the west. nt MADem Mar 2014 #29

Pootie needs customers for his gas and oil. amandabeech Mar 2014 #27

Fair point. Not doing business w/him wouldn't help his situation. nt MADem Mar 2014 #31

Sour grapes after the CIA backed coup backfired n/t cosmicone Mar 2014 #7

It has been alluded to elsewhere dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #12

No, it's not.. it's a stand against Putin invading the Ukraine. Cha Mar 2014 #18

Therein lies the fallacy... cosmicone Mar 2014 #23

No fallacy.. but, by all means Proceed with your conspiracy Cha Mar 2014 #33

What is "little Hillary Avatar" supposed to mean? cosmicone Mar 2014 #34

No not at all, I'm sure she'll make a great President when and if the time comes. Right now though.. Cha Mar 2014 #35

The first of many nonviolent, diplomatic responses to violence. As it should be. n/t pampango Mar 2014 #8

We do not have a legal leg to stand on Wet Willie Mar 2014 #11

Consider Assad and al-Sisi. Igel Mar 2014 #22

Yunukovytch was not trying to change the country cosmicone Mar 2014 #24

We, the EU and the Russians have guaranteed the territorial integrity of Ukraine in a amandabeech Mar 2014 #28

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You may see an invite, but I don't. amandabeech Mar 2014 #32

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Ha! amandabeech Mar 2014 #37

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She's got YOUR number, tovarich. nt MADem Mar 2014 #39

Well, I guess it's more than a strongly worded letter. 1000words Mar 2014 #40

And He Was Right to Do So Wolf Frankula Mar 2014 #41