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22. Consider Assad and al-Sisi.

Sat Mar 1, 2014, 09:49 PM

Mar 2014

If Morsi invites the IDF to invade, that's okay?

How about the way that Russia is defending the elected government of Syria?

Somehow I don't think many of those broad-brushing the Maidan folk and defending the Berkut and Yanukovich are really being consistent. It's hard to see what the principle is, either. It's not defending popular votes. It's not defending citizens against oppression. It's not just being anti-US/CIA/Obama or pro-SovPutin and his Russland Allein.

There are a few principles at play, and some are fairly retrograde while others aren't obviously so.

In some cases, gunning down people is public service. In other cases, merely rescinding rights with no obvious consequences is evil most foul.

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This is what you get when you put a right-wing fascist at the helm of power: fascism & dictatorship. BlueCaliDem Mar 2014 #1

By then Crimea will have had its referendum - now due 30th March. dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #2

Self-determination would solve this. After seeing that brute slapping around an employee freshwest Mar 2014 #3

Aside from which dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #4

I think he believes in the principle above what the USA may get one way or the other. freshwest Mar 2014 #6

Interesting concept: letting people vote on which country they want to be citizens of. pampango Mar 2014 #9

Really only works in a confined area. dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #10

And if the referendum effectively changes the nationality of Crimeans pampango Mar 2014 #14

What about all the minority-majority areas? JackRiddler Mar 2014 #13

Doesn't get the approved outcome. Igel Mar 2014 #21

It's probably inevitable that this (and future) Administrations will covertly provide arewenotdemo Mar 2014 #42

I think a split may be the only peaceful way to end this. PFunk Mar 2014 #19

Which will not include Sevastopol. Igel Mar 2014 #20

OH, OH!!! That'll leave a mark...NOT! Purveyor Mar 2014 #5

What's so fucking funny? Cha Mar 2014 #15

That some how the 'west' pulling out of the G8 is a big fucking deal, that is Purveyor Mar 2014 #16

Who said it was a big fucking deal.. President Obama is taking a stand Cha Mar 2014 #17

Well, it is a big fucking deal and the only one behaving in a "funny" fashion is you on this thread. MADem Mar 2014 #25

He can get all from Italy. 840high Mar 2014 #26

"Italy" is the west. nt MADem Mar 2014 #29

Pootie needs customers for his gas and oil. amandabeech Mar 2014 #27

Fair point. Not doing business w/him wouldn't help his situation. nt MADem Mar 2014 #31

Sour grapes after the CIA backed coup backfired n/t cosmicone Mar 2014 #7

It has been alluded to elsewhere dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #12

No, it's not.. it's a stand against Putin invading the Ukraine. Cha Mar 2014 #18

Therein lies the fallacy... cosmicone Mar 2014 #23

No fallacy.. but, by all means Proceed with your conspiracy Cha Mar 2014 #33

What is "little Hillary Avatar" supposed to mean? cosmicone Mar 2014 #34

No not at all, I'm sure she'll make a great President when and if the time comes. Right now though.. Cha Mar 2014 #35

The first of many nonviolent, diplomatic responses to violence. As it should be. n/t pampango Mar 2014 #8

We do not have a legal leg to stand on Wet Willie Mar 2014 #11

Consider Assad and al-Sisi. Igel Mar 2014 #22

Yunukovytch was not trying to change the country cosmicone Mar 2014 #24

We, the EU and the Russians have guaranteed the territorial integrity of Ukraine in a amandabeech Mar 2014 #28

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You may see an invite, but I don't. amandabeech Mar 2014 #32

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Ha! amandabeech Mar 2014 #37

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She's got YOUR number, tovarich. nt MADem Mar 2014 #39

Well, I guess it's more than a strongly worded letter. 1000words Mar 2014 #40

And He Was Right to Do So Wolf Frankula Mar 2014 #41