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amandabeech

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28. We, the EU and the Russians have guaranteed the territorial integrity of Ukraine in a
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 12:03 AM
Mar 2014

1994 treaty. Russia has violated that integrity by actions that exceed what is allowed in connection with the lease of the military bases in Crimea. Russia has violated the treaty.

No party guaranteed that there would never be an irregular change of presidents or governments.

If Canada had a presidential system of government, which it does not, I assume that we would be worried if any irregular change in president occurred. We might beef up our border crossings or put some troops on alert. After that, we'd take a wait and see attitude. We might make plans to evacuate Americans if fighting broke out. We'd also be in serious consultations with the British, who I assume would be extremely anxious. However, I don't think that we would be threatening to roll the tanks into Ottawa unless we were attacked.

Putin, with the Russian language media, has hopped up a lot of Russian citizens and ethnic Russians in Ukraine because he wants to re-create the Soviet Union and he can't do that without a lot of Ukraine coming home to mother Russia. He cannot get over the fact that over twenty years have passed since the Cold War came to an end and fourteen years after the 20th century came to an end. The rest of us have said good riddance to both of them and moved on. It's time for him and his friends to do the same.





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This is what you get when you put a right-wing fascist at the helm of power: fascism & dictatorship. BlueCaliDem Mar 2014 #1
By then Crimea will have had its referendum - now due 30th March. dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #2
Self-determination would solve this. After seeing that brute slapping around an employee freshwest Mar 2014 #3
Aside from which dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #4
I think he believes in the principle above what the USA may get one way or the other. freshwest Mar 2014 #6
Interesting concept: letting people vote on which country they want to be citizens of. pampango Mar 2014 #9
Really only works in a confined area. dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #10
And if the referendum effectively changes the nationality of Crimeans pampango Mar 2014 #14
What about all the minority-majority areas? JackRiddler Mar 2014 #13
Doesn't get the approved outcome. Igel Mar 2014 #21
It's probably inevitable that this (and future) Administrations will covertly provide arewenotdemo Mar 2014 #42
I think a split may be the only peaceful way to end this. PFunk Mar 2014 #19
Which will not include Sevastopol. Igel Mar 2014 #20
OH, OH!!! That'll leave a mark...NOT! Purveyor Mar 2014 #5
What's so fucking funny? Cha Mar 2014 #15
That some how the 'west' pulling out of the G8 is a big fucking deal, that is Purveyor Mar 2014 #16
Who said it was a big fucking deal.. President Obama is taking a stand Cha Mar 2014 #17
Well, it is a big fucking deal and the only one behaving in a "funny" fashion is you on this thread. MADem Mar 2014 #25
He can get all from Italy. 840high Mar 2014 #26
"Italy" is the west. nt MADem Mar 2014 #29
Pootie needs customers for his gas and oil. amandabeech Mar 2014 #27
Fair point. Not doing business w/him wouldn't help his situation. nt MADem Mar 2014 #31
Sour grapes after the CIA backed coup backfired n/t cosmicone Mar 2014 #7
It has been alluded to elsewhere dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #12
No, it's not.. it's a stand against Putin invading the Ukraine. Cha Mar 2014 #18
Therein lies the fallacy... cosmicone Mar 2014 #23
No fallacy.. but, by all means Proceed with your conspiracy Cha Mar 2014 #33
What is "little Hillary Avatar" supposed to mean? cosmicone Mar 2014 #34
No not at all, I'm sure she'll make a great President when and if the time comes. Right now though.. Cha Mar 2014 #35
The first of many nonviolent, diplomatic responses to violence. As it should be. n/t pampango Mar 2014 #8
We do not have a legal leg to stand on Wet Willie Mar 2014 #11
Consider Assad and al-Sisi. Igel Mar 2014 #22
Yunukovytch was not trying to change the country cosmicone Mar 2014 #24
We, the EU and the Russians have guaranteed the territorial integrity of Ukraine in a amandabeech Mar 2014 #28
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You may see an invite, but I don't. amandabeech Mar 2014 #32
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Ha! amandabeech Mar 2014 #37
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She's got YOUR number, tovarich. nt MADem Mar 2014 #39
Well, I guess it's more than a strongly worded letter. 1000words Mar 2014 #40
And He Was Right to Do So Wolf Frankula Mar 2014 #41
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