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happyslug

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39. I had training in such incidents
Sun Mar 2, 2014, 02:00 AM
Mar 2014

That training included making sure the person I was retaining was not harmed. Now, my training was with the National Guard and riot control and one aspect of that training is we were told NOT to do it unless direcret by a Police Officier, who hopefully had more training then we did.

The training I undertook AND a review of most police training emphasis how to aviod harm to the person we were arresting. People do die when they are arrested of things not related to being arrested. Heart Attacks are known, so are strokes. Thus just because it took six or more officers to detain someone, does not mean they killed him. The video does not show anything that could have killed the victim by that action. The holding someone down, putting your knees on him till you hand cuff him, is not enough to kill someone. Something NOT on that video is the cause of the death. The police may have done it, and may NOT have done it. Nothing on that video shows either case, thus the video shows nothing as to the cause of the death of this victim.

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Things like this are happening all too frequently lostincalifornia Feb 2014 #1
But there are good cops awoke_in_2003 Feb 2014 #2
Yeah, defacto7 Feb 2014 #30
"He's fine" AtheistCrusader Feb 2014 #3
goddamn pigs! n/t wildbilln864 Feb 2014 #4
Fuck, another one? blackspade Feb 2014 #5
The most sickening aspect is that the cops' actions are now pretty much always 'justified.' QuestForSense Feb 2014 #6
The safety of the police officer appears to be the primary concern in these situations. Maedhros Feb 2014 #13
to serve and protect has been replaced mikeysnot Feb 2014 #15
That was the motto of the Kanamit too. n/t jtuck004 Feb 2014 #27
loved that tv show... mikeysnot Feb 2014 #37
Is there a betting pool on - whether or not - the Theatre/center videos will be found functional. laserhaas Feb 2014 #7
IIRC those tapes are already being examined by the SBI struggle4progress Feb 2014 #9
K&R woo me with science Feb 2014 #8
This video shows nothing happyslug Feb 2014 #10
I'm sure there are witnesses that will be ignored uponit7771 Feb 2014 #11
"video does NOT show anything that by itself shows the use of excessive force." mikeysnot Feb 2014 #16
I have been in situation like that... happyslug Feb 2014 #25
Personal anecdotes do not apply here. mikeysnot Feb 2014 #38
I had training in such incidents happyslug Mar 2014 #39
It shows a homicide. GeorgeGist Feb 2014 #22
It shows a homicide, but type of homicide it fails to show happyslug Feb 2014 #26
I can't tell what's going on either TorchTheWitch Feb 2014 #32
Remember this is a cell phone camerea,the picture is about the best you are going toi get happyslug Feb 2014 #33
do you mean surveillance videos? TorchTheWitch Feb 2014 #34
fuck tha police frylock Feb 2014 #12
when they pile on like that what one or more are doing is being blocked lunasun Feb 2014 #14
The pepper spray alone makes it difficult to breathe geomon666 Feb 2014 #17
You can clearly hear one cop say "we'll take care of him." DFW Feb 2014 #18
There needs to be an organization dedicated to bringing police officers / departments to justice AZ Progressive Feb 2014 #19
We stopped them in the city I grew up by creating civilian review boards. n/t freshwest Feb 2014 #36
It's getting to be like Tsarist Russia -- eppur_se_muova Feb 2014 #20
A few bad apples or Brown Shirts? You decide. Enthusiast Feb 2014 #21
that is how it goes when city police become the municipal armed forces. olddad56 Feb 2014 #23
Genocide Because of Obama? marias23 Feb 2014 #24
Becoming A Daily Occurence SoCalMusicLover Feb 2014 #28
Police are paramilitary The Wizard Feb 2014 #29
UPDATE: Official Pig Version of Events geomon666 Feb 2014 #31
He looked like he was out of it at the scene Kingofalldems Feb 2014 #35
Recommend jsr Mar 2014 #40
Men are always the suspects in domestic disputes marshall Mar 2014 #41
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