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Tue Mar 4, 2014, 12:00 PM

Mar 2014

The imperialists and should not be a surprise. Bush would have felt compelled to add some "shock and awe" so at least we're not dealing with that again ...

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Obama team announces $1 billion in aid to Ukraine [View all] n2doc Mar 2014 OP

$17 billion to go... Demeter Mar 2014 #1

That's only short term. EU offered a �1 billion too. dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #7

So, only $15.5 BILLION to go Demeter Mar 2014 #8

So is this for shovel ready jobs? aristocles Mar 2014 #2

Because no one needs it here . . . Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #3

I tend to agree. nt Earth_First Mar 2014 #5

I must confess . . . Brigid Mar 2014 #6

Same here. 840high Mar 2014 #34

No doubt durablend Mar 2014 #9

Ukraine is different than us. go west young man Mar 2014 #12

Yup. My first thought, too. City Lights Mar 2014 #13

Diplomacy is expensive, but war is even more expensive Democat Mar 2014 #15

And a billion dollars is going to Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #16

I dunno Iliyah Mar 2014 #17

I agree with you. We need this money here, not in other parts of the globe. Paper Roses Mar 2014 #22

I agree CANDO Mar 2014 #40

I agree with you too. Owl Mar 2014 #23

Yes it's needed here. In fact a lot more than that is needed here. But that doesn't mean that we totodeinhere Mar 2014 #25

But what is it accomplishing? Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #27

There is no way that we will be able to avoid getting involved in this situation unless we totodeinhere Mar 2014 #29

It'll be hard to even get sanctions leftynyc Mar 2014 #31

They've had a mild winter, and we're entering spring jeff47 Mar 2014 #37

The Europeans have issued some sactions. amandabeech Apr 2014 #75

We've got a treaty with Ukraine. You don't need to invoke NATO. jeff47 Mar 2014 #39

That's true. But if he moves on NATO countries that will increase the totodeinhere Mar 2014 #47

If Putin moves on NATO countries, the increase in the level of crisis amandabeech Apr 2014 #76

"There are no clear "good guys" vs. "bad guys" here" - wrong EX500rider Mar 2014 #49

Notice it said part of this is energy aid. I strongly suspect both the US and EU countries are okaawhatever Mar 2014 #55

Wrong branch of government. jeff47 Mar 2014 #35

Thank you. Arkana Mar 2014 #46

Thank you for being realistic. nt okaawhatever Mar 2014 #54

if the republicans want this, Obama should insist on dollar for Doctor_J Mar 2014 #64

It's actually a loan guarantee, not a grant and not even a loan itself. amandabeech Apr 2014 #74

Goody gumdrops dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #4

That amount was mentioned a week or so back in the form of "guarantees" dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #10

I can't say it's gonna happen.... go west young man Mar 2014 #14

Yes we do. 840high Mar 2014 #36

Key word: IMF. Bad deal! Screwing the Ukranian people again. n/t truth2power Mar 2014 #24

Diplomacy: What a great idea! RobertEarl Mar 2014 #11

Unfortunately, IMO this is a giant step dotymed Mar 2014 #19

See also more comprehensive WaPo story (recently updated) MBS Mar 2014 #18

In addition to the $5+ billion already spent to unseat the democratically elected president jtuck004 Mar 2014 #20

This method works for TBF Mar 2014 #26

The democratically elected government was not unseated. That same government's parliament totodeinhere Mar 2014 #28

Perhaps you were watching the Disney channel? Because the one I had showed gangs, including jtuck004 Mar 2014 #48

It looks like you have fallen for Russian propaganda. totodeinhere Mar 2014 #50

My opinion of his treatment of LGBT folk, our neighbors, is that it is just as horrid as it is here jtuck004 Mar 2014 #51

With all due respect, you have no idea what you are talking about. EmilyAnne Mar 2014 #56

I see it's time to up my standards again. Bye. jtuck004 Mar 2014 #57

Getting busy on the proof there? lol nt EmilyAnne Mar 2014 #59

here we go again... nyabingi Mar 2014 #21

Nailed it. go west young man Mar 2014 #32

Straight from the mouth of Mark Levin and Michael (Weiner) Savage snooper2 Mar 2014 #38

fail x 1 billion. KG Mar 2014 #30

Make that 6 BILLION. A sixfold FAIL. Catherina Mar 2014 #72

Unreal. bigwillq Mar 2014 #33

We did all we could to bring the legal government down . . . another_liberal Mar 2014 #41

Ukrainians are human beings just as much as Americans are. Nye Bevan Mar 2014 #42

+ 100 !!! (nt) reACTIONary Apr 2014 #73

We have hungry, homeless people here. 840high Apr 2014 #77

Is It Aid Or gussmith Mar 2014 #43

A loan which will most likely never be repaid . . . another_liberal Mar 2014 #53

LOL ... still thinking they can throw money around 1000words Mar 2014 #44

Putin will use that billion wisely once the Ukraine belongs to him. olddad56 Mar 2014 #45

To everyone so upset at this aid BainsBane Mar 2014 #52

I'm not upset over the aid . . . another_liberal Mar 2014 #58

What evidence do you have that this was a US coup? BainsBane Mar 2014 #60

Oh, I don't know . . . another_liberal Mar 2014 #61

What is the date of the phone call? BainsBane Mar 2014 #62

No, the phone call was actually well before Yanukovich was forced to flee. another_liberal Mar 2014 #66

I want to make something clear BainsBane Mar 2014 #63

Sadly . . . another_liberal Mar 2014 #65

So in other words you have no proof. n/t totodeinhere Mar 2014 #68

The government was not illegally overthrown. totodeinhere Mar 2014 #67

As I have noted more than once already, it was indeed illegal. another_liberal Mar 2014 #69

That is not an accurate account of what happened. But it does very conveniently totodeinhere Mar 2014 #70

The U.S., U.K., Ukraine, and Russia signed the Budapest Memorandum in 1994, an international treaty totodeinhere Mar 2014 #71

nm. n/t Xithras Apr 2014 #78