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happyslug

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18. Mental Illness is a laysman term, not used in the law nor Psychiatry.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 12:57 PM
Mar 2014

The law is concern if someone is competent, i.e. know how to take care of him or herself, knows what he or she owns, who are their heirs and family members and that they are capable of knowing right from wrong AND not a danger to themselves or others,

Competency is a very minimal standard, people with an IQ of 60 have been ruled competent (I suspect people with lower IQ have also been competent but have no data to support that statement).

Psychiatry and Psychology deal with treating people who have mental problems. Most people seeking such help are competent. They may not be employable, but are competent (Employabilty is the test for Social Security Disability not competency). I often mention that Winston Churchill of WWII Fame was know to be Manic-Depressive, now call "Bi-polar". When he was up, he was on top of the game, but when he was done Churchill did some stupid things (Such as sinking the French Fleet when France Surrendered to Germany during WWII).

I like bringing up Churchill for, while he was Bi-Polar, that did not make him unemployable (He was a writer and speaker between WWI and WWII and a minster in the British Government off an on from WWI till 1953).

Thus Attention Deficient Hyper-Activity Disorder (ADHD) is treated by Psychiatrists and Psychologists is listed in DSM-IV AND DSM-V (DSM-V came out in May 2013)


https://www.msu.edu/course/cep/888/ADHD%20files/DSM-IV.htm

http://www.dsm5.org/Documents/ADHD%20Fact%20Sheet.pdf

Thus Attention Deficient Hyper-Activity Disorder (ADHD) is something Psychiatrists and Psychologists will treat as a mental illness, but often does not make someone incompetent or unemployable.

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Comforting thought. Downwinder Mar 2014 #1
The housing bubble still worked and nobody wanted to die in Iraq /nt jakeXT Mar 2014 #2
I didn't realize ADHD was considered mental illness. Arkansas Granny Mar 2014 #3
technically, it is no longer called ADD, it is now lumped in with Autism and Asberger's syndrome olddad56 Mar 2014 #14
Mental Illness is a laysman term, not used in the law nor Psychiatry. happyslug Mar 2014 #18
I don't think every single mental health problem should be exempt davidpdx Mar 2014 #4
what about after? n/t reddread Mar 2014 #5
My thought, too. I'd rather my son had ADHD than PTSD. marble falls Mar 2014 #10
I'd expect the right wing to want to use this in the future. joshcryer Mar 2014 #6
Then the Army is doing better than the general population, according to the NIMH. 7962 Mar 2014 #7
They were taking people with criminal records, gang bangers and anything else.... Historic NY Mar 2014 #8
How did they get in? hoosierlib Mar 2014 #9
And after enduring military existence? Demeter Mar 2014 #11
record suicides n/t reddread Mar 2014 #12
How many high school graduates have mental illness as defined in the OP? former9thward Mar 2014 #13
The study was about the army because, as the article notes, soldier suicide attempts have doubled. SunSeeker Mar 2014 #20
Yes, but that issue is all over. former9thward Mar 2014 #22
That issue is NOT "all over." SunSeeker Mar 2014 #24
Where are the statistics on college students? former9thward Mar 2014 #26
What are you talking about? Can you provide some statistics? Links? SunSeeker Mar 2014 #27
From your own post. former9thward Mar 2014 #28
And as noted, that has changed. Vets now have double the suicide rate of civilians. SunSeeker Mar 2014 #29
Vets are not active army. former9thward Mar 2014 #30
The article notes SOLDIERS who've attempted suicide has doubled, from 1.1 to 2.4%. nt SunSeeker Mar 2014 #33
6% of undergraduates and 4% of graduates have seriously considered suicide in last year. former9thward Mar 2014 #34
Per your link, 1.5% actually attempted it, whereas 2.4% of soldiers have attempted it. nt SunSeeker Mar 2014 #35
What you are doing is playing with statistics to make it appear military people are 'nuts'. former9thward Mar 2014 #37
Not at all. SunSeeker Mar 2014 #38
ADHD is a common "ailment" dotymed Mar 2014 #25
How does being off ADHD meds get him a shot at the Army? JimDandy Mar 2014 #31
Not according to the recruiter. n/t dotymed Mar 2014 #36
Brilliant. rrneck Mar 2014 #15
So? Orsino Mar 2014 #16
That nicely sums up the situation with our vets. n/t JimDandy Mar 2014 #32
Nearly everyone I know either has or has had some form of depression, panic disorder or ADHD penultimate Mar 2014 #17
But, but, but Bushies and the rest of the continuing MIC needed fodder for the cannons. heaven05 Mar 2014 #19
Yes, how DID they get into the Army? shanti Mar 2014 #21
"more than 8% of soldiers entered the Army with intermittent explosive disorder"(uncontrolled anger) Sunlei Mar 2014 #23
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