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Igel

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14. No. This is a holdover from Soviet times.
Tue Mar 4, 2014, 07:23 PM
Mar 2014

Centralized planning of apt. blocks and city blocks called for centralized services. You have a single boiler that handles a large population. The super for the building doesn't have to worry about shoveling coal (most of these are probably converted from coal boilers), you keep the logistics simple enough for a central planning office to handle.

It is horribly inefficient, but it simplifies things for the planners. Older buildings in the US had central boilers for a large building. Some older universities and colleges have central boilers and chillers with steam tunnels.

The downside is that you really can't regulate things at the individual level. But the governments, for many decades, didn't really care about things at the individual level.


In many older Soviet apts. you had centralized kitchens, as well. There'd be a kitchen or bathroom for a group of apts. Everybody had to share the stove, the oven, the sink. Those fell out of favor as Soviet society became a little better off, but putting in one heating unit for a "subdivision" (I don't have English words for them) was still standard in the '60s and '70s.

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the $1 Billion is only to tide them over until IMF can do an analysis and make an offer. Yanukovich okaawhatever Mar 2014 #1
Interesting that the IMF has no culpability in this issue ... ? MindMover Mar 2014 #2
No kidding, and the IMF doesn't deserve to be blamed either because they made the conditions okaawhatever Mar 2014 #4
Thats interesting. dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #11
No. This is a holdover from Soviet times. Igel Mar 2014 #14
We've got similar in some places in the UK dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #15
Yep. They're called kommunalkas. They still exist and I lived in one. EmilyAnne Mar 2014 #17
Thank you for the information ... the issues relate to a lot of other countries and ... MindMover Mar 2014 #12
Great details, explains a lot! Thanks, okaawhatever. n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #23
Kerry's $1 billion in aid is too much. bigwillq Mar 2014 #3
All combined foreign aid is a FRACTION of our budget problems. $1 billion is NOTHING. phleshdef Mar 2014 #5
I oppose foreign aid bigwillq Mar 2014 #6
We can easily do both if our larger fiscal stupidity were to be cured. phleshdef Mar 2014 #9
Those who help the poor don't draw the line at the border. Those who don't help the poor pampango Mar 2014 #16
+1 davidpdx Mar 2014 #21
+1000. Ditto. nt adirondacker Mar 2014 #22
Foreign aid is an excellent tool for avoiding military conflicts. A much cheaper option. n/t DebJ Mar 2014 #27
This is an unsurprising observation. joshcryer Mar 2014 #25
It's likely a loan or loan guarantee. Much of the aid is unless it's humanitarian aid like food.nt okaawhatever Mar 2014 #7
Use of the expression "guarantee" dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #10
"Kerry's $1 billion in aid is too much" EX500rider Mar 2014 #13
A billion is lame in context with what Ukraine will need. dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #8
Ukraine is acting like a frail Demeter Mar 2014 #18
Some organising the protests may have banked on that. dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #19
Not sure how i feel.. iamthebandfanman Mar 2014 #20
I'm sorry...... DeSwiss Mar 2014 #24
what are you working on for first look jeremy ... is it drones kill people ...? MindMover Mar 2014 #26
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