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MissB

(16,344 posts)
36. Ha!
Wed Mar 5, 2014, 11:32 PM
Mar 2014


I will say that the SAT essay portion of the test does little to demonstrate that a kid can actually write a good essay. The essay requires a kid to quickly take a side of an issue in a short introductory paragraph, include three supporting paragraphs with examples and then quickly summarize/extend their point of view.

And that's done in 25 minutes. The essay is graded by an actual human, who takes about two minutes to read it and assign a score. A second reader does the same: the two scores added together make up the score on a scale of 0-12.

And those three examples? The "best" SAT essays (read: scores of 10 to 12) include one example from literature, one from history and one from the student's experience. My favorite part: you can quite literally make up a book and author, give an example from the War of 1813 and talk about your fake Aunt Linda's fake cancer. It's utter bullshit.

What will help America produce students able to write real essays is allowing for small enough class sizes such that the teacher is able to assign many essays each term and provide individual feedback in a timely manner.

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Sounds like they're trying to up their profit margin. I'm sure they're totally magnanimous. CurtEastPoint Mar 2014 #1
I'm thinking this as well. madaboutharry Mar 2014 #3
Computer scored all the way exboyfil Mar 2014 #5
Considering that "the ability to bullshit on demand" is an absolute prerequisite... TygrBright Mar 2014 #11
And we have our thread winner. Brigid Mar 2014 #33
Their profit margin has to be pretty good already.. olddad56 Mar 2014 #12
You don't get rid of them until you have decided that you will not attend amandabeech Mar 2014 #13
Bing bing! Stuckinthebush Mar 2014 #15
Why not. Young people today have such a poor vocabulary question everything Mar 2014 #2
BTW, isn't it 'yung ppl'? CurtEastPoint Mar 2014 #4
OOps... question everything Mar 2014 #7
FTW! KeepItReal Mar 2014 #27
It is interesting with voacabulary developed from reading exboyfil Mar 2014 #17
Actually, I support them on this.... Adrahil Mar 2014 #18
It sounds as if the problem is the method of test scoring... MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #31
yeah, my wife's an English professor, so I understand the value of writing.... Adrahil Mar 2014 #32
Maybe it's like what voting should be... MrMickeysMom Mar 2014 #39
And then you go somewhere like Free Republic, JoeyT Mar 2014 #21
Free Republic = gibbering morons. raven mad Mar 2014 #23
This is true. When I hear parents complain that their children don't read question everything Mar 2014 #24
Amen to that. JoeyT Mar 2014 #38
I'd like to know how they determine what "fancy vocabulary" is. Jim__ Mar 2014 #6
Well, I hope they dropped "baldric". eppur_se_muova Mar 2014 #9
While they are at it, they ought to consider dropping or lengthening the time requirement LibDemAlways Mar 2014 #8
I always assumed the lack of time in the math section truebluegreen Mar 2014 #10
Expecting students to make intuitive leaps in math is not just unfair but enforces bias in testing. greatlaurel Mar 2014 #14
No doubt you are right truebluegreen Mar 2014 #19
And that's a bad thing. Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #29
I guess one has to ask what is being tested. truebluegreen Mar 2014 #30
I understand. Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #34
Writing? What's that? mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2014 #16
Please tell me I'm not the only one here ... surrealAmerican Mar 2014 #28
It's not just you. I've never seen that before and it's seriously funny shit!! n/t winter is coming Mar 2014 #42
I'm guessing they had to dumb it down for today's students. QuestForSense Mar 2014 #20
maybe instead of criticizing the change we should look at why our public schools are liberal_at_heart Mar 2014 #22
Perfer They Keep Essay Section erpowers Mar 2014 #25
Bad idea on the essay bluestateguy Mar 2014 #26
It is worth noting that most of the above posts suggesting young people can't write LeftyMom Mar 2014 #35
Ha! MissB Mar 2014 #36
I spent all of junior high English writing prompt-driven plug and chug five paragraph essays. LeftyMom Mar 2014 #37
"Weapons grade-BS!" Brigid Mar 2014 #40
Diane Ravitch has a good post about this greatlaurel Mar 2014 #41
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