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In reply to the discussion: Obama: Crimea referendum would be illegal [View all]jakeXT
(10,575 posts)23. I think he didn't want to be slow and incompetent like Assad or Yanukowitsch
It's a risky move, he certainly risks a lot with it.
If his intel was correct, he certainly knows through intercepts about people like Nuland or the Estonian foreign minister.
Or the intel was planted, to force him into the move just like the Soviets were dragged into Afghanistan
The Central Intelligence Agency says it was following events closely enough to have outlined scenarios in which upheaval in Ukraine would become so intense that Russia would take military action.
Two national security sources said the CIA had specifically warned policymakers, shortly before the Russian military moved into the Crimean peninsula, that such a move could be imminent.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=4613133
So, what was Russian Intel reacting to, you ask?
Well, according to Voice of Russia, hacked emails pointed to a group of Tatar troublemakers, neo-Nazis and others who were allegedly getting assistance from Turkish Intelligence. There were also two incidents where masked men carried out paramilitary-type operations on government buildings in Simferopol in Crimea on February 27 and February 28 which suggested that something big was afoot. (Russian ambassador to the UN, Vitaly Churkin confirmed that the Crimean interior ministry was attacked on Saturday by armed men sent by Kiev in a statement he made before the UN Security Council.) The incidents were captured on tape and can be seen here:
Heres an excerpt from one of the hacked emails, also from the same post, allegedly between the coup plotters in Kiev and a Tatar leader:
Everything is going according to the plan. We are ready to proceed with the second part of the play. As agreed earlier last week, my guys together with people from the Karpatskaya Sech and UNA-UNSO will arrive wherever is needed and with the necessary weapons. You only need to let us know the addresses of the warehouses in Simferopol, Sevastopol, Kerch, Feodosia and Yalta, and the time of the meeting (The Crimean Anti-Coup Move Moon of Alabama)
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/03/04/crimea-river/
Well, according to Voice of Russia, hacked emails pointed to a group of Tatar troublemakers, neo-Nazis and others who were allegedly getting assistance from Turkish Intelligence. There were also two incidents where masked men carried out paramilitary-type operations on government buildings in Simferopol in Crimea on February 27 and February 28 which suggested that something big was afoot. (Russian ambassador to the UN, Vitaly Churkin confirmed that the Crimean interior ministry was attacked on Saturday by armed men sent by Kiev in a statement he made before the UN Security Council.) The incidents were captured on tape and can be seen here:
Heres an excerpt from one of the hacked emails, also from the same post, allegedly between the coup plotters in Kiev and a Tatar leader:
Everything is going according to the plan. We are ready to proceed with the second part of the play. As agreed earlier last week, my guys together with people from the Karpatskaya Sech and UNA-UNSO will arrive wherever is needed and with the necessary weapons. You only need to let us know the addresses of the warehouses in Simferopol, Sevastopol, Kerch, Feodosia and Yalta, and the time of the meeting (The Crimean Anti-Coup Move Moon of Alabama)
http://www.counterpunch.org/2014/03/04/crimea-river/
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I have not seen anything, anything, that remotely touches on the topic of kicking
amandabeech
Mar 2014
#4
Your extract says that the Russian bases on Crimea could be a problem if Ukraine wished to gain
amandabeech
Mar 2014
#13
So you think Merkel is right, Putin has lost his marbles and he should have talked to Andriy Parubiy
jakeXT
Mar 2014
#35
Sometimes in international relations, one has to deal with distasteful people.
amandabeech
Mar 2014
#36
Medvedev also seems to see nobody to talk to / What about US presidents wrecking nations ?
jakeXT
Mar 2014
#37
"Member countries should have no foreign military bases on their territory"
former9thward
Mar 2014
#39
If Ukraine as a member of NATO can kick out the Russians then why can't Cuba kick
totodeinhere
Mar 2014
#17
There is no basis for Ukraine kicking the Russians out of their leased bases so long as the
amandabeech
Mar 2014
#22
Which has little to nothing to do with the validity of statement in and of itself.
LanternWaste
Mar 2014
#5
Results of elections in which armed individuals wander around outside polling places
amandabeech
Mar 2014
#14
Ethnic Russians are 59% (vast majority?) of Crimea. Assuming the 41% who are not ethnic Russia
pampango
Mar 2014
#44
I have seen them, and they are full of factual falsehoods and distortions.
geek tragedy
Mar 2014
#34
Actually the EU has already agreed to do something. They have agreed to a $15 loan guarantee to
totodeinhere
Mar 2014
#18
please stop repeating the Kremlin's Big Lie of calling Yanukovych's decision
geek tragedy
Mar 2014
#16