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90. Why do wild things have more rights to live than domesticated ones?

Fri Mar 7, 2014, 08:25 PM

Mar 2014

Short answer: they don't. A cow or pig has just as much right to live as a deer or duck, even if they don't illicit the same emotional response so many people base irrational beliefs like yours on.

Once you realize that, it boils down to how much cruelty you're willing to accept for your meat. Even a well-run, humane family farm (like I grew up on) requires animals be kept in confined areas at times, castrated, dehorned, given sometimes-painful shots, etc, for months and years until slaughter.

A good hunter, on the other hand, fires a shot that kills the game animal in a matter of seconds, with a minimum of suffering.

If you eat meat, you WILL cause an animal to suffer. There is no escaping it. To simply say "go shopping at a grocery store like everyone else" is the epitome of burying your head in the sand to escape this simple fact.

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Dammit. Have we learned nothing? Not Sure Mar 2014 #1

I agree we haven't learned davidpdx Mar 2014 #6

fuck that noise if we stop buying chicken for a few weeks elehhhhna Mar 2014 #28

I will not buy chicken Scairp Mar 2014 #92

they're staring w/ recombinated chickey things like breaded elehhhhna Mar 2014 #93

We? I rarely use that word in connection with this government anymore. woo me with science Mar 2014 #39

Who comes up with this shit? awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #45

this is why we need tariffs to protect jobs ThomThom Mar 2014 #63

We will never have them awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #66

Now this is something both and GOP and the Dems should protest loudly. But the corporatists will kelliekat44 Mar 2014 #87

Score another for corporate profits - Obama admin, zero wordpix Mar 2014 #95

Because chicken is just so goddamn good for you to begin with! Systematic Chaos Mar 2014 #2

So, one fine day the USDA folks just, on a whim, decided to "allow" jtuck004 Mar 2014 #3

Baby food, too XemaSab Mar 2014 #8

Which is why I won't eat processed seafood or anything else like that. There were also news freshwest Mar 2014 #4

Thank you for the information. Don't ya just love the one percent. classykaren Mar 2014 #11

I got away from them a half dozen years ago. It was an unfortunate period in my life. freshwest Mar 2014 #12

A friend of mine bought some fish sticks from a 99 cent store recently. closeupready Mar 2014 #49

My cat Snowball died a horrible death after eating that poison pet food from China back in '07... DesertDiamond Mar 2014 #5

Sorry to hear about your cat. If you can get local fish I'd try that for the cats, too. n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #13

Make sure your pet dishes aren't made in China, either theHandpuppet Mar 2014 #30

Oh my God.....did they even think about this one? Hulk Mar 2014 #7

Chicken is now out of my diet choices. nilesobek Mar 2014 #9

Not a chance in hell this will lower prices to consumers Fumesucker Mar 2014 #24

Yup. ctsnowman Mar 2014 #38

+$0.25 closeupready Mar 2014 #50

The last time I shopped at Save Alot they had meat that stated happily prepared for you in Mexico. classykaren Mar 2014 #10

All because we greedy North American workers want to earn enough money to buy said chicken. Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #14

Well if it's any consolation durablend Mar 2014 #69

There are many American dogs that are dead from Chinese dried chicken snacks. Kablooie Mar 2014 #15

won't feed my dog anything made overseas mdbl Mar 2014 #20

And the only way to avoid this is to buy local from a humane rancher. Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #16

Healthy food for the well-to-do, fuck all for the rest is the problem with this idea. $20 chicken Ed Suspicious Mar 2014 #18

Sweetheart, I'm hardly well-do-do. Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #22

Processed chicken A Little Weird Mar 2014 #29

It is a horrible idea. Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #46

Or hunt. I have 2 deer in the freezer, 30 dove, too. Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #27

I don't derive pleasure out of killing animals. Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #47

Neither do I, but I prefer killing directly than by agency... Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #54

Or . . . Le Taz Hot Mar 2014 #56

"You people" was enough to rationalize your hatred. Eleanors38 Mar 2014 #58

I agree packman Mar 2014 #61

So you think that someone who goes out and kills an elk indie9197 Mar 2014 #77

There are other ways of looking at this arikara Mar 2014 #79

So you are doing something "Noble" packman Mar 2014 #82

Are you a vegetarian? arikara Mar 2014 #83

Vegetarian - hell no packman Mar 2014 #85

Why do wild things have more rights to live than domesticated ones? NickB79 Mar 2014 #90

There will be a profit to be made by companies that process entirely in USA. MADem Mar 2014 #17

Must be for the fast food industry mdbl Mar 2014 #19

This is what happens when corporations control the regulation process. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #21

You mean they control the DEregulation process, cuz that's all we've got now. nt valerief Mar 2014 #33

That too. Enthusiast Mar 2014 #35

I hope it will be labelled My Good Babushka Mar 2014 #23

Are we out of our friggin minds? SmittynMo Mar 2014 #25

I can only imagine how sick this will make us liberal N proud Mar 2014 #26

Just thinning the herd durablend Mar 2014 #70

So if I buy plain old boned chicken--no breading or other processing--does that valerief Mar 2014 #31

Looks like the shippers and fuelsters make out most on this. nt valerief Mar 2014 #32

Get kosher chicken greymattermom Mar 2014 #34

Why all that shipping get the red out Mar 2014 #36

stuff spent laying hens live in a shipping container, freeze & ship to china? Sunlei Mar 2014 #37

Canned tuna ctsnowman Mar 2014 #40

Infuckingsane. One more reason to not eat meat. marble falls Mar 2014 #41

Gross. It's always good to be a vegetarian. roody Mar 2014 #42

i've eaten here in china for six years. i haven't died yet. i wonder where i can buy all Nanjing to Seoul Mar 2014 #43

I don't think the tainted food going to America is served in China fasttense Mar 2014 #48

Try "Walmart China" they DNA test all meat to make sure refuge pile mink/fox meat isn't mixed in! Sunlei Mar 2014 #51

i wouldn't go to walmart back home. why would i go to the devil spawn hellhole here? Nanjing to Seoul Mar 2014 #53

You really don't want to go to one in China. Mag238 Mar 2014 #72

Not surprised. I see that all the time. You're not shocking me with that Nanjing to Seoul Mar 2014 #73

Yes, it is the same all over the country. Mag238 Mar 2014 #75

Because this is China and it's traditional Chinese attitude to piss, shit and drop your garbage Nanjing to Seoul Mar 2014 #76

Those poor animals. CrispyQ Mar 2014 #44

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wtf? bossy22 Mar 2014 #52

Don't ever forget the dog food incident a few years ago. SoapBox Mar 2014 #55

They poisoned my dogs, and then poisoned their own children. No f'g way am I going DeschutesRiver Mar 2014 #94

Antifreeze in my chicken? What could go wrong there. santamargarita Mar 2014 #57

Chicken ships? packman Mar 2014 #59

This will incentivize people to get a better job so they can buy a real chicken at Whole Foods jsr Mar 2014 #62

who will be disallowed from labeling the origin of their meat reddread Mar 2014 #65

Thanks, Vilsack. bullwinkle428 Mar 2014 #64

There goes my career as a chicken flicker. Mag238 Mar 2014 #67

I wonder if they will ship all the way to China or WhiteTara Mar 2014 #68

What could possibly go wrong? Jake2413 Mar 2014 #71

The is so amazingly stupid and wasteful Matariki Mar 2014 #78

Maybe it's time to just give up on all animal proteins .. read this ditty >> YOHABLO Mar 2014 #80

On reflection, it seems that little by little HeiressofBickworth Mar 2014 #81

***FOOD SAFETY NEWS to spread awareness/STOP this from reaching supermarkets or school lunchrooms. proverbialwisdom Mar 2014 #84

Um, er... KamaAina Mar 2014 #86

LOL. TwilightGardener Mar 2014 #88

Fuck it, I'm growing my own this year NickB79 Mar 2014 #89

If only there were something we could do, almost immediately flvegan Mar 2014 #91