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Xithras

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60. Yes, eventually. That could be what took it down.
Fri Mar 14, 2014, 01:58 PM
Mar 2014

The theory is based on events that have taken other aircraft down in the past. Can a fire erupt quickly enough to incapacitate the flight crew? Yes, it's happened before. Can a fire take out specific aircraft systems while leaving others operational? Yes, it's happened before. Can a smoldering fire in a low oxygen environment continue to do damage? Sure, ask any firefighter. A fire in a low oxygen environment can burn for hours or days, slowly spreading through the remaining combustible material.

For the theory to work, the fire only needs to have done two things: 1) Prevented the flight crew from sending a distress call, which we know is ENTIRELY possible from previous crashes. 2) Eliminated cabin pressurization. In fact, this step may not have even been needed. The original site that I picked this theory up at contained a reply by a pilot stating that many older pilots were once taught to depressurize the cabin in response to a major onboard fire, to reduce the amount of oxygen available to it and slow it down. In a real disaster, the crew might have depressurized the cabin THEMSELVES in a desperate attempt to get the flames under control. But even without this step, it's plausible that an onboard fire could have rapidly eliminated the cabin pressurization systems on its own.

If the oxygen was cut off before the aircraft skin was breached, the fire would have slowed to a crawl and the flames would have almost vanished. They would have continued to burn slowly, fed only by the chemicals outgassed from the materials in the aircraft. In that condition, the flames would have slowly spread for hours, taking out system after system. If it didn't run out of fuel first, it would have eventually taken out the autopilot or breached the aircrafts skin, either of which would have brought it down.

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This is pretty compelling new information.. DCBob Mar 2014 #1
As the debris, and the oil slick, and other information, it may prove untrue, but I thought it worth uppityperson Mar 2014 #2
Well, I tend to believe this one. The US is certainly good at stuff like this. DCBob Mar 2014 #4
Doesn't eliminate the fire possibility. Xithras Mar 2014 #16
possible.. but seems less likely than a hijacking. DCBob Mar 2014 #18
I don't think so. BlueStreak Mar 2014 #31
No, that makes no sense at all Yo_Mama Mar 2014 #35
You didn't explain why a hijacker or terrorist would do it this way BlueStreak Mar 2014 #38
A commercial airliner would be an excellent delivery device for a weapon's system. kristopher Mar 2014 #39
O ...... K ........ BlueStreak Mar 2014 #45
That's actually not true now B2G Mar 2014 #47
What did the hijacker accomplish? BlueStreak Mar 2014 #51
He got a really cool plane. B2G Mar 2014 #52
I love creative use of straw men, misdirection and ability to deftly twist away from the obvious kristopher Mar 2014 #49
Sorry, I misunderstood the plot you were formulating BlueStreak Mar 2014 #53
No, you didn't misunderstand. kristopher Mar 2014 #57
It is a very bizarre sequence of events Yo_Mama Mar 2014 #54
Hijacker does not make sense in my opinion. N/T bobGandolf Mar 2014 #42
nothing really makes "sense" at this point Yo_Mama Mar 2014 #58
Wouldn't a fire that took all of those things out, also destroy the auto pilot mechanisms? freshwest Mar 2014 #29
Yes, eventually. That could be what took it down. Xithras Mar 2014 #60
Yeah but at that point they'd be desperate to contact ATC somewhere for a divert.. EX500rider Mar 2014 #64
Why don't they use sattelites to search for runways that could be... MindMover Mar 2014 #3
airport runways ? JI7 Mar 2014 #5
how much runway does a triple 7 need to land??? MindMover Mar 2014 #7
This says... jtuck004 Mar 2014 #10
They still think it crashed.. somewhere in the Indian ocean. DCBob Mar 2014 #6
I think I'm gonna agree... SoapBox Mar 2014 #13
Or the hijackers could be stupid like the Ethiopian Air hijackers csziggy Mar 2014 #30
Because it's a stupid idea. LeftyMom Mar 2014 #17
maybe they got zapped into that spaceship everyone is talking about MindMover Mar 2014 #37
Because you can't hide a 777 on a runway. Travis_0004 Mar 2014 #23
What's the wing width of a 777? Interstate highways were designed to act as emergency runways. freshwest Mar 2014 #32
The highways desinged as emergency runways was not actually true Travis_0004 Mar 2014 #43
Maybe we haven't heard their demands because they couldn't land where they planned to land. OTOH, freshwest Mar 2014 #44
We see pirates everywhere these days... n/t jtuck004 Mar 2014 #8
She was well used with 53,465 hours & 7525 cycles... EX500rider Mar 2014 #9
And ran into another plane sometime back, with a wing, iirc. jtuck004 Mar 2014 #11
I wonder if the plane may have actually landed somewhere. I don't totodeinhere Mar 2014 #12
You can't hide a 777 very easily. Travis_0004 Mar 2014 #24
That's my suspicion PSPS Mar 2014 #33
If it was planned, maybe somewhere very remote? treestar Mar 2014 #41
KEY WORDS: "There is no exact information yet" pangaia Mar 2014 #14
Those were my words, my editorializing, not the article. It is all very interesting, am thinking uppityperson Mar 2014 #28
be afraid... tk2kewl Mar 2014 #15
I see it more as we don't know, but are trying to pull together whatever we can and now have to uppityperson Mar 2014 #20
Good visual... SoapBox Mar 2014 #25
Thanks for the great visual B2G Mar 2014 #48
"Two U.S. officials" itsrobert Mar 2014 #19
MAS plane did not fly on for four hours, says Malaysia government icymist Mar 2014 #21
Mix of data adds to MH370 confusion uppityperson Mar 2014 #22
Just reading on CNN... SoapBox Mar 2014 #26
Either that or it PROVES that the plane suffered a catastrophioc failure BlueStreak Mar 2014 #27
"missing jet transmitted its location repeatedly to satellites over the course of five hours..." Princess Turandot Mar 2014 #34
If it transmitted its location for 5 hours, then what were the bleeping locations??? muriel_volestrangler Mar 2014 #40
Do we really have a "need to know"? kristopher Mar 2014 #50
Then they shouldn't be saying "it transmitted for 5 hours" muriel_volestrangler Mar 2014 #55
Remember all the confusion and denials? kristopher Mar 2014 #56
"nontraditional" Corgigal Mar 2014 #61
Seems it'd be easier to buy a 2nd hand older plane in Africa somewhere setup as a "Charter airlines" EX500rider Mar 2014 #65
Yup, yet I keep looking and hoping for someting. "Other developments" uppityperson Mar 2014 #59
I like the way Boeing has managed to keep completely silent on all this... countryjake Mar 2014 #63
70 minutes before reported missing to MAS? mackerel Mar 2014 #36
Think this could have been done remotely, through all the computer systems? Sunlei Mar 2014 #46
. snagglepuss Mar 2014 #62
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