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(9,586 posts) Fri Mar 14, 2014, 04:19 PM Mar 2014

Russia Is Preparing to Invade East Ukraine, Estonia Says [View all]

Source: Bloomberg

Russian President Vladimir Putin is preparing to “invade eastern Ukraine” after occupying the country’s Black Sea peninsula of Crimea, Estonia said.

Russia warned that Ukraine’s government has lost control of the country today, fueling concern the Kremlin may extend a military intervention as U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry called for it to halt a takeover of the disputed province.

Events in Ukraine “clearly show that the Russian Federation only accepts force,” Estonian Defense Minister Urmas Reinsalu said in an e-mailed statement today. To deter Putin, “a clear message needs to be sent that an attack will cost the aggressor dearly.”

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Read more: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-03-14/russia-is-preparing-to-invade-east-ukraine-estonia-says.html

Remember Estonia was the country who had the intelligence that said Russia was preparing to invade Georgia. They even had the name of two of the units that were going to be used. Unfortunately the info never got to the right people.

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Russia Is Preparing to Invade East Ukraine, Estonia Says [View all] okaawhatever Mar 2014 OP

Can anyone say iron curtain? William769 Mar 2014 #1

Georgia is hardly a good example. dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #2

Estonia loves NATO. And American money. rdharma Mar 2014 #3

As an Estonian-American, I can say that Estonia desperately needs NATO's protection, LiberalEsto Mar 2014 #5

Fair enough. rdharma Mar 2014 #8

Actually Poland is also extremely concerned, from what I've read on BBC LiberalEsto Mar 2014 #12

Poland's "fears" are completely unfounded. rdharma Mar 2014 #16

Why, because you and rt.com said so? geek tragedy Mar 2014 #18

No. Because I am intimately familiar with the situation in Poland. rdharma Mar 2014 #19

this gives you psychic insight into Moscow's plans? nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #20

Vs. your "insight" into the situation? rdharma Mar 2014 #27

I am not the one who has been exposed as a historical revisionist seeking geek tragedy Mar 2014 #53

Huh? rdharma Mar 2014 #55

you claimed that liberalEsto's account of conscriptions of estonians geek tragedy Mar 2014 #56

No. That has nothing to do with conscription practices. rdharma Mar 2014 #58

I think I will trust the person who was there rather than geek tragedy Mar 2014 #61

Ukrainian fears were unfounded a month ago. You're a Putin apologist uhnope Mar 2014 #22

No. Not aplogizing for Putin's actions. rdharma Mar 2014 #29

Putin is a dictator who has crushed Russian democracy and is now invading a sovereign country. uhnope Mar 2014 #31

Are you a Tea Party member..... or a Republican? rdharma Mar 2014 #33

We don't kid ourselves about the tea party around here. They would do everything Putin is doing okaawhatever Mar 2014 #36

And we would all be forced to answer leading questions....... rdharma Mar 2014 #39

With 446 posts and that attitude... Scootaloo Mar 2014 #80

Easy, I'm absolutely neither. But you won't denounce a dictator, an invasion, or stick up for uhnope Mar 2014 #94

You are an apologist for the former Soviet Union, as witnessed by your unethical behavior geek tragedy Mar 2014 #47

No. The claim was that people from the Baltics were specifically conscripted to work at Chernobyl. rdharma Mar 2014 #83

And I provided a contemporaneous account backing that claim up and directly geek tragedy Mar 2014 #87

Of course you are. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2014 #86

Thanks for reposting that ........ I stand by it! nt rdharma Mar 2014 #91

So you admit you lied when you said you weren't apologizing for Putin. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2014 #93

Because Russia AnalystInParadise Mar 2014 #104

And Latvia and Lithuania. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #17

NATO is the only thing keeping Russian tanks out of Ida-Varu. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #6

You can't get that "Cold War thinking" out of your head...... can you? rdharma Mar 2014 #9

Point being that NATO is providing Estonians a lot of comfort geek tragedy Mar 2014 #11

Yup! You're still living in the "duck and cover" era. rdharma Mar 2014 #13

No. As an American, I have nothing to fear from Russia. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #14

Your criticism is, in my view, unwarranted. LiberalEsto Mar 2014 #26

Strange, I never heard of the "special conscription practices" involving residents of the Baltics. rdharma Mar 2014 #32

This happened to my own first cousin. LiberalEsto Mar 2014 #34

I base it on my job at the time. rdharma Mar 2014 #37

I answered your question in my previous post. LiberalEsto Mar 2014 #40

I'm not trying to be rude. rdharma Mar 2014 #42

Why? did the cleanup with the USSR's conscipts last that long in full force? geek tragedy Mar 2014 #44

He is telling the truth and you are the one who is LYING to cover for the Soviet Unions' abuses geek tragedy Mar 2014 #45

THANK YOU!!!!! LiberalEsto Mar 2014 #50

It's really bad form to accuse someone of lying and then lie yourself. It's really dumb geek tragedy Mar 2014 #52

Hid in the woods 1986 until independence. rdharma Mar 2014 #57

your behavior of spreading falsehoods while claiming that the poster who is telling geek tragedy Mar 2014 #59

There were not Soviet special conscriptions from the Baltics to be employed at Chernobyl. rdharma Mar 2014 #65

repeating the falsehood doesn't make it true. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #67

So stop repeating. rdharma Mar 2014 #71

From your (Radio Free Europe!) source: Ghost Dog Mar 2014 #90

they are denying that people in the Baltics were drafted specifically for Chernobyl. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #95

I might have read one of your articles. OilemFirchen Mar 2014 #101

Now you are putting words in my mouth LiberalEsto Mar 2014 #64

Then he continued to stay under the radar until independence. rdharma Mar 2014 #68

You are trolling, trolling trolling by suggesting that person is not telling the truth. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #77

What truth or falsehoods are you talking about? rdharma Mar 2014 #81

And no one here believes you, comrade. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #82

All "credibility" was lost on me with that "targeted conscription" claim. rdharma Mar 2014 #84

You CLAIM it didn't happen. You have given no one any reason to believe geek tragedy Mar 2014 #85

I was in a position to know if that could have been used for political advantage against the USSR.. rdharma Mar 2014 #88

What, you're claiming that your work in formulating propaganda on behalf geek tragedy Mar 2014 #89

Very tiring ......"cold war" fools who don't know what they're talking about. nt rdharma Mar 2014 #97

Was that position in the Red Army or the Party, comrade? geek tragedy Mar 2014 #43

Oh, yes they do! You still fighting the lost war in Vietnam? rdharma Mar 2014 #60

you claim to be an expert in conscriptions in Estonia in 1986. What job did you have geek tragedy Mar 2014 #62

No. I didn't claim to be an expert on conscriptions in Estonia in 1986. rdharma Mar 2014 #72

then how pray tell could you possibly know whether an account from Estonia is geek tragedy Mar 2014 #74

Estonia was part of the Soviet Union at the time. rdharma Mar 2014 #76

So you were an agent/employee of the Soviet Union at the time this was happening? geek tragedy Mar 2014 #79

What was your job at the time? Did you have to clean-up? Just curious. There appear okaawhatever Mar 2014 #49

Sure he had to clean up. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #54

rofl. Tell me how you really feel. nt okaawhatever Mar 2014 #66

Would you recommend that I polish them with one or your Tea Bags? nt rdharma Mar 2014 #73

Sorry, I'm a liberal Democrat. And liberal Democrats geek tragedy Mar 2014 #75

You should apologize for your sleazy behavior in this thread. That person is telling the truth, geek tragedy Mar 2014 #46

Two little things, g.t. LiberalEsto Mar 2014 #69

Ah, of course, confused you for a Spanish pronoun. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #70

Putin himself has said he wanted to remake the USSR, why do you not believe him? 7962 Mar 2014 #113

Yes, it does. Igel Mar 2014 #15

Some Estonians consider themselves indigenous peoples LiberalEsto Mar 2014 #30

A Russian self fulfilling prophesy..... blackspade Mar 2014 #4

You think the Russians are behind the neo-fascists in the Euromaidan? rdharma Mar 2014 #10

Probably not in the Euromaidan blackspade Mar 2014 #23

No logical endgame for US (western capitalist) caused instability using fascist thugs? Really? rdharma Mar 2014 #25

Lay it out for me then. blackspade Mar 2014 #28

I don't care to "educate" you. rdharma Mar 2014 #98

And why not? blackspade Mar 2014 #99

When you talk about non-existent stuff...... I quickly lose interest. nt rdharma Mar 2014 #100

But we are not talking about my 'nonexistent stuff' blackspade Mar 2014 #103

Because apparently Chile or something Nixon did...wait, THE CIA!!!! EX500rider Mar 2014 #108

The CIA and our corporate masters have done and continue to do.... blackspade Mar 2014 #109

You've got it. IF theres no evidence, then the CIA hid it or altered it, therefore causing it 7962 Mar 2014 #114

This message was self-deleted by its author uhnope Mar 2014 #96

You don't think a dictator named Putin leading a giant dictatorship is behind an invasion of Crimea? uhnope Mar 2014 #24

Rec #5 Tarheel_Dem Mar 2014 #7

Kick. n/t Tx4obama Mar 2014 #21

Dneiper = Rubicon africanadian Mar 2014 #35

He could take it....but wont. Xolodno Mar 2014 #41

If they were... Xolodno Mar 2014 #38

As I mentioned earlier in this thread, I am Estonian-American, with relatives in Estonia LiberalEsto Mar 2014 #48

"Russia needs Crimea for the same reason the Russian Empire needed it. A warm water port.." no EX500rider Mar 2014 #63

It's silly to think Russia *needs* Crimea. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2014 #92

This is very important. k&r for exposure. n/t Laelth Mar 2014 #51

Estonia spies? treestar Mar 2014 #78

Not our problem marshall Mar 2014 #102

I have a feeling that this will happen after the Crimea vote davidpdx Mar 2014 #105

I like the old guy. Your head is for thinking, not just carrying our brain around. nt okaawhatever Mar 2014 #106

I like the ominous music sarting at 04:30 did you notice that? rdharma Mar 2014 #107

You do realize the music is playing in the background of the Ukrainian protesters too, right? blackspade Mar 2014 #112

Oh yeah, its Fox News that caused the invasion! nt 7962 Mar 2014 #115

Wow, ignorance must be bliss davidpdx Mar 2014 #116

The old Soviet officer was right on. blackspade Mar 2014 #110

Poor Putin.. Nasty West. Cha Mar 2014 #111