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110. can you land a big plane like that in the desert?

Reply to Warpy (Reply #6)

Sat Mar 15, 2014, 01:55 PM

Mar 2014

I don't know if there were any desert landing options, but
just wondering about that.

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Malaysian Officials have concluded missing flight #MH370 was hijacked and steered off course [View all] Renew Deal Mar 2014 OP

Then they need to start searching airports and straight, level highways Warpy Mar 2014 #1

Search where? Renew Deal Mar 2014 #2

If the plane was hijacked I suspect many of the passengers are still alive Bjorn Against Mar 2014 #4

It takes a hell of a long runway to land one of those Warpy Mar 2014 #6

I don't think it is in Pakistan as I agree that would be hard to get to Bjorn Against Mar 2014 #11

With Autobrake set to max... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #15

1,780m on the 200 variant. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #30

Exactly... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #34

Right, pangaia Mar 2014 #67

With the amount of fuel as was likely to be left, pangaia Mar 2014 #64

can you land a big plane like that in the desert? Voice for Peace Mar 2014 #110

Unlikely, deserts aren't generally very flat Warpy Mar 2014 #117

And if it were part of a planned operation how hard would it be? kristopher Mar 2014 #124

Sadly, no passenger would survive the time the plane was at 45,000 feet. PSPS Mar 2014 #22

Why not? awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #35

Because it's service ceiling is 43,100 ft whopis01 Mar 2014 #43

How do you know that the ceiling is due to the limit of the ability to maintain pressurization? muriel_volestrangler Mar 2014 #49

Because that is the pressurization limit whopis01 Mar 2014 #52

Who says it's the pressurization limit? muriel_volestrangler Mar 2014 #69

Just saw your post right after I posted mine just below. pangaia Mar 2014 #71

This (from someone who claims to know the plane): muriel_volestrangler Mar 2014 #74

Boeing (combined with regulations) says it is the pressurization limit whopis01 Mar 2014 #81

Thanks - that does make sense, looking at different versions muriel_volestrangler Mar 2014 #92

The service ceiling is based on the aircrafts ability pangaia Mar 2014 #70

FAA does not define it the way you do. MyNameGoesHere Mar 2014 #79

I'm not entirely sure I understand what you are saying, but I will try to explain my point whopis01 Mar 2014 #83

Cabin pressure alone is not the ONLY limiting factor MyNameGoesHere Mar 2014 #119

Correct. The ceiling will be limited by the lowest altitude factor. whopis01 Mar 2014 #126

This AM CNN had a segment with a 777 flight simulator at 45K kristopher Mar 2014 #128

Came across the video - here's the link kristopher Mar 2014 #152

Thanks... awoke_in_2003 Mar 2014 #96

I always thought passenger drop-down oxygen masks were deployed truth2power Mar 2014 #78

They are, but work for only a few minutes. PSPS Mar 2014 #85

thanks. Clears that up. n/t truth2power Mar 2014 #88

Wow, so the pilot could have had access to a potential murder switch? JimDandy Mar 2014 #113

I am with you "previously unbelievale" Iwasthere Mar 2014 #138

What's scary is it's NOT a conspiracy, if all it takes is one person to hijack a plane! JimDandy Mar 2014 #143

Aren't there oxygen masks on planes? bitchkitty Mar 2014 #103

Yes, but they work for only a few minutes. PSPS Mar 2014 #105

That's bad news... bitchkitty Mar 2014 #107

I doubt the plane could have gotten to 45,000 feet TorchTheWitch Mar 2014 #144

It did climb to 45,000. That came out days ago. PSPS Mar 2014 #146

I hope you are right davidpdx Mar 2014 #56

Leftover Vietnam era landing strips? grahamhgreen Mar 2014 #57

So I guess those of us who thought the plane was stolen were not "conspiracy theorists" after all Bjorn Against Mar 2014 #3

.... DeSwiss Mar 2014 #10

Can't disagree with that Bjorn Against Mar 2014 #13

Great quote! red dog 1 Mar 2014 #19

That's a keeper. And here's another one about conspiracies... truth2power Mar 2014 #77

Michael Parenti is brilliant, pure & simple. red dog 1 Mar 2014 #127

Thanks for pointing out the JFK material on the Parenti site. I'll take a look... truth2power Mar 2014 #145

IMO, the best book written about the JFK Murder is by Peter Dale Scott... red dog 1 Mar 2014 #148

Exactly. DeSwiss Mar 2014 #135

I don't recall any objections about conspiracies. The objection was wild unfounded specalution BlueStreak Mar 2014 #59

As the OP confirms, it wasn't "wild unfounded speculation" kristopher Mar 2014 #65

Well then I guess anyone who suggested anything was talking out their asses Bjorn Against Mar 2014 #76

Actually, the speculation that it had CRASHED was based on nothing. B2G Mar 2014 #82

It was based on official Malaysian statements that the plane doubled back over the Malacca strait BlueStreak Mar 2014 #130

When it became clear that the plane drastically altered course, B2G Mar 2014 #141

Oh, now it's that now. "Unfounded speculation"... truth2power Mar 2014 #95

This right here, BlueStreak! You have a response? nt ChisolmTrailDem Mar 2014 #122

Didn't the release of the alleged fact that cell phones savannah43 Mar 2014 #139

So let me get this straight BlueStreak Mar 2014 #140

The ring you hear when calling a cell or landline phone IDemo Mar 2014 #142

This has to be A Sick Rollercoaster for the Families lib87 Mar 2014 #5

I guess for tonight anyway... SoapBox Mar 2014 #7

Look at this Renew Deal Mar 2014 #8

Another article I read said that is what you hear when the system is looking for your phone uppityperson Mar 2014 #21

Well the other theory would be if the plane were hijacked and the passengers were alive davidpdx Mar 2014 #54

The poor families. Too many "ifs" still, as my spouse said "movie makings". nt uppityperson Mar 2014 #129

If I turn my cell off and call it from another phone whopis01 Mar 2014 #44

Picture at the link is heartbreaking: freshwest Mar 2014 #132

There are no cell towers on the ocean. longship Mar 2014 #14

I don't know that you could count on a cell phone call if the plane landed Bjorn Against Mar 2014 #16

Were the pilots Islamic terrorists? nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #9

Undecided. obxhead Mar 2014 #32

+100 Myrina Mar 2014 #104

You think all this has been been done by TPTB to create a "situation?" nt Sarah Ibarruri Mar 2014 #147

I did not say that obxhead Mar 2014 #149

''Conclusive'' :-| n/t DeSwiss Mar 2014 #12

Kick Cha Mar 2014 #17

The same government officials who, perhaps, called in a shaman? jtuck004 Mar 2014 #18

K&R.....Thanks for posting red dog 1 Mar 2014 #20

Consider this... icarusxat Mar 2014 #118

"Our CIA and NSA have gone rogue" EX500rider Mar 2014 #123

Consider this jmowreader Mar 2014 #136

Edit: Conference not quite started yet. greyl Mar 2014 #23

I think there will be a statement with no questions and then Renew Deal Mar 2014 #24

Did you catch an updated time for the statement? nt greyl Mar 2014 #26

No Renew Deal Mar 2014 #28

Lol, I thought he kept saying 5:30 was a different issue. greyl Mar 2014 #29

They were awaiting the arrival of the Chinese Ambassador to Malaysia... countryjake Mar 2014 #58

Biggest DUH ever. maced666 Mar 2014 #25

Pirates. ErikJ Mar 2014 #27

Every plane 'should' have to send a signal with its location every five minutes to a satelite... Tx4obama Mar 2014 #31

The airlines should be sewing beacons into the wing if necessary davidpdx Mar 2014 #55

Seriously, the pilot turning off the transponders in a commercial aircraft should AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #89

I agree davidpdx Mar 2014 #121

There will be a call for something like this after the MH370 incident LongTomH Mar 2014 #137