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2. The President of Venezuela has clearly learned a lesson from the President of Ukraine.

Sat Mar 15, 2014, 09:38 PM

Mar 2014

President Maduro knows that if he allows violent anti-government protesters to claim a victory, they will only push for more and more. President Yanukovich of Ukraine caved in to pressure from the U. S. and its allies by agreeing to pull his police off the streets of Kiev. Within twelve hours he was fleeing Ukraine for his very life and the government had been taken over by fascists and right wing ultra-nationalists.

What President Maduro is choosing to do is clearly risky, but what choice does he really have? To allow the protesters to remain in control of parts of the nation's Capital would only lead to his having to hand his country over totally to an American-backed, wealthy elite with no concern for the welfare of the vast majority of Venezuela's people. I'm sure he is not happy to take this step, but at this point, I have to sympathize with why he must take it.

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Venezuela's Maduro gives ultimatum to Caracas protesters [View all] Zorro Mar 2014 OP

"Chuckies" is a great name for RWers! Zorra Mar 2014 #1

The President of Venezuela has clearly learned a lesson from the President of Ukraine. another_liberal Mar 2014 #2

If he cracks down it will be his downfall. joshcryer Mar 2014 #4

Eighty were killed in Kiev, and most of them by the radical protesters' gunmen. another_liberal Mar 2014 #5

Propaganda. Regardless, Chavez never cracked down like Maduro. joshcryer Mar 2014 #6

Yanukovich was a corrupt hack who does not deserve the Ukranian people's sympathy Marksman_91 Mar 2014 #9

you think the problem with Yanukovuych is that he wasn't a big enough thug. geek tragedy Mar 2014 #7

+1 EX500rider Mar 2014 #30

duperific, that one nt arely staircase Mar 2014 #32

And the mask finally falls with a big old thud. I defy anyone to find anything.... Tarheel_Dem Mar 2014 #17

+1 EX500rider Mar 2014 #31

Also from the U.S. crackdown on Occupy? JackRiddler Mar 2014 #42

And how many dead Occupiers were there? EX500rider Mar 2014 #46

How many people did Occupiers kill? JackRiddler Mar 2014 #52

How many paramilitary groups did the govt send against Occupiers? ChangoLoa Mar 2014 #62

Plaza Altamira is in no means in student hands. joshcryer Mar 2014 #3

I wonder if any OWS supporters think this is okay. nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #8

Of course. Joining a movement designed by a Madison Avenue ad agency is totally different Recursion Mar 2014 #10

Are they part of Anonymous or Occupy the World, or something, you mean? n/t freshwest Mar 2014 #18

AnonOPs is in Venezuela, yeah. joshcryer Mar 2014 #22

Yeah, I just found this pic on Carcas Gringo. I've missed a lot of these threads as they are mostly freshwest Mar 2014 #25

Anonymous VZ is backing the students one thousand percent. nt MADem Mar 2014 #35

Los estudiantes have a sense of humor.....unlike that idiot running the country into the ground.... MADem Mar 2014 #36

Brilliant photo! Dem4ever27 Mar 2014 #37

Nope. JoeyT Mar 2014 #29

It's the lack of peaceful that's made problems. JackRiddler Mar 2014 #43

Eh, setting up roadblocks isn't a big deal. joshcryer Mar 2014 #59

How did a person like this ever become their leader? seveneyes Mar 2014 #11

the perils of allowing presidents to hand-pick their successors. nt geek tragedy Mar 2014 #12

Well, the Cubans treating Chavez hand-picked him. Chavez would have preferred MADem Mar 2014 #38

Maduro has spent a fair amount of time shuttling between Caracas and Havana Zorro Mar 2014 #45

Raul just left....he was no doubt filling Maduro's ear...I get the sense either Maduro MADem Mar 2014 #49

Maduro has offered up Diosdado Cabello to discuss the situation with a high-ranking US official Zorro Mar 2014 #54

Quite possibly. Thing is, Diosdado is a real toughie--and he's still got friends in the Army. MADem Mar 2014 #57

I don't know if you're a fan of Ch�vez, but in the end, he was human, and he makes mistakes like all Marksman_91 Mar 2014 #13

When votes are actually "votes"; this is what you get. nt 7962 Mar 2014 #14

Because it's "not who votes, but who counts the votes". Tarheel_Dem Mar 2014 #15

You're welcome to post any assessments of the fairness of Venezuelan elections. Comrade Grumpy Mar 2014 #19

Thank you "Comrade"! Tarheel_Dem Mar 2014 #20

The Carter Center gives a balanced report. joshcryer Mar 2014 #24

In other words, the Carter Center found... ChangoLoa Mar 2014 #40

What is likely to happen? Will it be comparable to riot police in other nations? Any similarites? freshwest Mar 2014 #16

+1 Tarheel_Dem Mar 2014 #21

Well, since the students never had Plaza Altamira, I dunno. joshcryer Mar 2014 #23

IDK half of what you're talking about? If it's in their neighborhood, and the people in the area did freshwest Mar 2014 #26

Altamira is near the subway. joshcryer Mar 2014 #27

Stay classy, Maduro. nt COLGATE4 Mar 2014 #28

Wonder if the Oakland PD is advising him? Nt hack89 Mar 2014 #33

"Liberate those spaces?" How, by killing 20 more students? MADem Mar 2014 #34

You keep forgetting! Archae Mar 2014 #39

If Chavez hadn't been relying on Cuban doctors to kill...errrrr...save him, he wouldn't have MADem Mar 2014 #44

It is everyone elses fault ripcord Mar 2014 #47

La Revolucion Bolivariana is as much B.S. as was Castro's revolution, Beacool Mar 2014 #41

That's just so wrong. Zorra Mar 2014 #48

Unfortunately Batista=BAD not same as Castro=good n/t EX500rider Mar 2014 #56

Madura and Chavez before him were elected in internationally monitored elections yurbud Mar 2014 #50

Not quite accurate Zorro Mar 2014 #53

There is such a thing as sedition. ddddemarco Mar 2014 #51

"The scumbags that murdered Chavez are behind this" Who, the fu*king Cuban's?! lol EX500rider Mar 2014 #55

"The scumbags who murdered Chavez" geek tragedy Mar 2014 #58

Chavez was murdered? uncommonlink Mar 2014 #60

So, you're saying the Cubans are behind this? Cuba killed Chavez? MADem Mar 2014 #61

Do you actually believe this crap? uncommonlink Mar 2014 #63