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muriel_volestrangler

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24. No, the history is not meaningless

Sun Mar 16, 2014, 05:30 PM

Mar 2014

That is why the concept of a referendum to join Russia is valid; it's the implementation that is a savage farce. Russian troops shut down all Ukrainian language TV stations in Crimea, and replaced the broadcasts with Russian (ie the country of Russia) programmes, which have a load of lies about Ukraine on them currently. The Crimean population is currently being massively lied to by the Russian government, and that makes the referendum invalid.

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93% of Crimea Votes to Join Russia [View all] DonViejo Mar 2014 OP

The truly odd part... africanadian Mar 2014 #1

The really odd part is the NATO countries don't consider cprise Mar 2014 #51

The WEIRDEST thing about the vote... Scootaloo Mar 2014 #52

Why are we recognizing the new government in Ukraine, then??? This is so stupid. reformist2 Mar 2014 #2

Do you believe the majority of Ukrainians in the rest of the country want to be part of Russia? penultimate Mar 2014 #6

No, but I believe that the goverment in Ukraine does not represent the majority and that has led to newthinking Mar 2014 #22

I suspected that was Clinton's appointment. arewenotdemo Mar 2014 #27

+1,000,000 n/t cosmicone Mar 2014 #28

+1000! andlor Mar 2014 #67

+1 wisteria Mar 2014 #57

Because we helped pay to get it in there. Over $5 billion. Plus cookies n/t jtuck004 Mar 2014 #10

International Republican Institute and Project for a new American Century newthinking Mar 2014 #19

Great mining for info as always. go west young man Mar 2014 #35

+1000 n/t LarryNM Mar 2014 #40

What? Not 100%? nt JudyM Mar 2014 #3

This! Putin's thugs are slacking. To the Gulag with them! NT Adrahil Mar 2014 #11

Like the vote to oust Yanukovych was? JoeyT Mar 2014 #16

The vote to vote oust Yanukovych was not near unanimous, though.... Adrahil Mar 2014 #50

I think that's what happened here, too. JoeyT Mar 2014 #56

those opposed boycotted. But anyone who knows the cultural makeup of crimea knows newthinking Mar 2014 #20

A miscalculation only if Obama wasn't OK with Ukraine losing Crimea... arewenotdemo Mar 2014 #32

This is my understanding too. djg21 Mar 2014 #74

I'm not especially concerned with politics in Crimea or Ukraine. cheapdate Mar 2014 #4

smart person you are ... n/t cosmicone Mar 2014 #29

Ditto. go west young man Mar 2014 #36

Thank you - I was 840high Mar 2014 #37

+1,000,000! AngryDem001 Mar 2014 #61

It's short sided an naive to take that kind of a stance davidpdx Mar 2014 #64

Actually, I think Rand Paul is stumping for increased US involvement in Ukraine. cheapdate Mar 2014 #70

Sounds like the Russians learned some of justhanginon Mar 2014 #5

Saddam won by more BeyondGeography Mar 2014 #7

The other 7% voted for Ralph Nader Jack for Sanders Mar 2014 #8

LOL NT Adrahil Mar 2014 #12

This vote is less legitimate than Kim Jong-Un's reelection. tarheelsunc Mar 2014 #9

No those weren't the choices. former9thward Mar 2014 #34

Do you have any link jamzrockz Mar 2014 #55

Yes. former9thward Mar 2014 #58

The news report I saw showed two seperate boxes for voters to drop their ballots. Incitatus Mar 2014 #72

Are you getting your information from Fox News? Completely opposite of the facts. 2banon Mar 2014 #75

Turnout would be a more meaningful number, since the opposition boycotted it muriel_volestrangler Mar 2014 #13

Did you notice dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #17

Actually Dipsy we don't use those things anymore. go west young man Mar 2014 #38

Yes I know about your stuff dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #41

Actually I'm from England... go west young man Mar 2014 #44

The highest number I see is 44%: joshcryer Mar 2014 #23

look 840high Mar 2014 #39

Voter turnout was placed at between 75 and 80 percent T. J. Kong Mar 2014 #43

Great first post! go west young man Mar 2014 #45

Thank you "go west young man" for the warm welcome! T. J. Kong Mar 2014 #48

Probably thousands of Russians suddenly became "Crimeans" Adrahil Mar 2014 #66

58% of Crimeans were Russians to start with happyslug Mar 2014 #69

"threats of violence and intimidation <- Like the democracy we bombed Iraq with? jtuck004 Mar 2014 #14

That's right! Iraquis never got to vote on our intrusion. ozone_man Mar 2014 #42

Vladamir Putin is an abomible excuse for a human something is being ignored studiously so in fact azurnoir Mar 2014 #15

If the Crimean parliament had actually organised a fair referendum muriel_volestrangler Mar 2014 #18

so Russian troops forced Crimeans to vote for them? or simply forced the referendum itself ? eta azurnoir Mar 2014 #21

No, the history is not meaningless muriel_volestrangler Mar 2014 #24

as are we in the West being lied to azurnoir Mar 2014 #26

US outlawed entire political parties in Iraq with the threat of imprisonment and violence. Ash_F Mar 2014 #25

You are correct cosmicone Mar 2014 #30

Really. World War II? lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #53

our government has clean hands in WW2. Adam051188 Mar 2014 #54

It wasn't the government it was the industrialists and corporations lostincalifornia Mar 2014 #59

I care about Crimea being allowed to freely chose its own fate bhikkhu Mar 2014 #60

On the other hand jamzrockz Mar 2014 #62

No, it could have easily been a violent mess bhikkhu Mar 2014 #68

Why is it our bussiness who they vote for when in this country bigdarryl Mar 2014 #31

The exit polls are never reliable! AAO Mar 2014 #33

Maybe at 11:55 the system will go down... go west young man Mar 2014 #46

Florida 2000 53.4-43.6% T. J. Kong Mar 2014 #47

I had a sarcasm smiley too! AAO Mar 2014 #71

Who "counted" the votes ?!?! blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #49

Well it wasn't Diebold dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #65

93% of Crimea Votes to Join Russia.... DeSwiss Mar 2014 #63

�You can�t conduct a democratic referendum when a whole country is invaded and controlled by the.. Cha Mar 2014 #73