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forkol

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17. There's some answers to your questions (based on the current reporting)
Sun Mar 16, 2014, 07:08 PM
Mar 2014

There have been a few news reports regarding your questions.

After takeoff, the plane was pretty much over water (and no where near enough to China) on it's normal flight path for some time, so there was no initial concern.

However, when it (reportedly) turned, the plane turned and followed routing that was generally followed for commercial airlines, and so there was still no concerns.

As I have been reading, it's not true that there's total, constant radar coverage for all flights even in this area, contrary to what most people believe. So, basically the flight was ignored because it was flying a general flight path that was reserved for commercial airlines, and any country that was monitoring didn't see anything out of the ordinary.

As for your other point about the passengers using their cellphones, as you rightly mention, they would have to have flown over a populated area since there are generally no cell towers placed in the ocean. Also, I read from news reports, that cell phones do not work above a certain altitude.

But, the more ominous reason is that from other reports, the plane ascended to 45,000 feet, them came down to about 20,000 feet, and re-ascended to about 40,000 feet again before dropping back down to about 30,000 feet. The thinking is that the they went up so high was to de-pressurize the cabin which, in time, would eventually kill the passengers.

But, you say, what about the oxygen masks? I read that there's only a limited amount of oxygen (maybe about 5 minutes worth). The masks are only supposed to be for temporary use, and just allow enough time for a pilot to get a plane low enough so that they were not needed. However, the pilot's oxygen masks last a lot longer. So, if the reports are true, it looks like the plane was taken up to a high altitude twice and long enough to ensure that no passengers would be alive.

Because of all of the flight knowledge needed, it does pretty much seem that you either would need to be a pilot, or know a hell of a lot about commercial airlines, flights, and procedures.

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Sounding more and more like the pilot was in on it bigworld Mar 2014 #1
Or maybe the pilot was flying with a gun pointed at his head. backscatter712 Mar 2014 #3
Or the person on the last communication wasn't either of the assigned pilots BlueStreak Mar 2014 #6
Wouldn't the Change be Recognized? On the Road Mar 2014 #24
Not at all BlueStreak Mar 2014 #28
Reports out now say the voice was the co-pilot. morningfog Mar 2014 #26
I thought at one time that maybe a pilot's family SoapBox Mar 2014 #8
More here. elleng Mar 2014 #2
could these system changes have been done remotely without pilots knowledge? Sunlei Mar 2014 #4
I'm certain that, if an airplane flew over any part of China without a flight plan or transponder... LongTomH Mar 2014 #9
There's some answers to your questions (based on the current reporting) forkol Mar 2014 #17
There is something seriously wrong here Android3.14 Mar 2014 #5
It isn't so far fetched PSPS Mar 2014 #18
I'll take another stab PATRICK Mar 2014 #25
Ever see the gorilla video about attention and focus? Igel Mar 2014 #20
And speaking of wrong... SoapBox Mar 2014 #7
Yeah that's weird titaniumsalute Mar 2014 #11
He built one himself.. HipChick Mar 2014 #12
There a different types of simulators groundloop Mar 2014 #14
Wouldn't it make sense to have a backup system? JoeyT Mar 2014 #21
Transponder titaniumsalute Mar 2014 #32
It was a custom build based on an off-the-shelf flight sim IDemo Mar 2014 #15
I've been playing with my off the shelf FSX system lately. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2014 #31
His simulator wasn't that kind. PSPS Mar 2014 #16
I'm not familiar with the 777 Plucketeer Mar 2014 #23
Stupid? You try working on those systems with power applied to them. Angleae Mar 2014 #33
I hope the people are ok maindawg Mar 2014 #10
People who worked with this pilot Marthe48 Mar 2014 #13
even if found, we may not know what happened rickford66 Mar 2014 #19
Odd behavior by pilot reported flamingdem Mar 2014 #22
The co-pilot said "good night." Bit that doesn't get us far. morningfog Mar 2014 #27
Malaysia Backtracks on When Airliner’s Communications Were Disabled jsr Mar 2014 #29
The Malaysians have now pulled back on this statement... Princess Turandot Mar 2014 #30
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