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Adrahil

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2. I don't think hiring is necessarily the issue....
Wed Mar 19, 2014, 07:39 AM
Mar 2014

At my company (an engineering services company), we about 100 technical employees. How many are black? 2. How many women engineers? 4.

But this isn't because of any discrimination in hiring, at least at our company. According to the National Action Council on Minorities in Engineering, only about 5% of engineering bachelor's degrees are awarded to African-Americans despite being about 12% of the population. That might be somewhat understandable given the economic class many African-Americans come from, but more on that later. It's worse when you consider the state of women in engineering, where less than 15% of BSxEs are women, despite being a majority of the general population. And generally speaking, those numbers can't even be explains by economic class.

Engineering is one of the few reasonably accessible professional occupations that pays good-excellent salaries. Yet, it is dominated by white (and to a lesser extent, Asian) men. This actively works against efforts to close wage gaps for most racial minorities and women.

Many, if not most, African-Americans don't get the secondary education they need to be successful as engineering students, and few of them have anything like a real-life role model. And women, while quite often well-prepared academically, are sometimes put off by the sausage fest that is most engineering programs in this country, and if they do run into trouble, are encouraged to pursue a less academically challenging career path, whereas men are often encouraged to simply buckle down and work harder.

We need more and better supported programs to help make technical careers accessible to a broader range of students, and we need to improve the quality of technical education of schools more frequently attended by economically disadvantaged students. Even when they get a degree from an accredited university, the quality of the education is often iffy, in my experience.

For the record, I'm a white male engineer.

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"Now hiring: 1 latino male and 2 black women." DetlefK Mar 2014 #1
I don't think hiring is necessarily the issue.... Adrahil Mar 2014 #2
ding ding ding- we have a winner wilt the stilt Mar 2014 #3
Good Post.... a bit more... Adrahil Mar 2014 #4
Engineering is a fantastic career path... Jerry442 Mar 2014 #5
errr.... what? Care to elaborate? NT Adrahil Mar 2014 #6
Google "Age Discrimination in Engineering." Jerry442 Mar 2014 #8
That is why I tell my daughter to develop exboyfil Mar 2014 #10
marketing- blah wilt the stilt Mar 2014 #20
Hmmm.... that's not my experience... Adrahil Mar 2014 #12
I'm two weeks shy of 47 and agree with your assessment. Throd Mar 2014 #16
I'm in college right now studying Computer Science NobodyHere Mar 2014 #7
Sorry to hear that, but sadly, not surprised. NT Adrahil Mar 2014 #14
I am also a white male engineer exboyfil Mar 2014 #9
well said. Thanks! NT Adrahil Mar 2014 #13
EXACTLY. I worked in public accounting and faced similar challenges joeglow3 Mar 2014 #11
dupe Munificence Mar 2014 #22
I hired an African American Munificence Mar 2014 #23
He should be pushing for more funding for science, math, and Project Lead the Way exboyfil Mar 2014 #15
I don't understand. I thought the U.S. tech industry was all outsourced Indian and Chinese. nt valerief Mar 2014 #17
"hiring or spending what is commensurate with the demographics of their customers" Android3.14 Mar 2014 #18
How are high school students the primay customer base of the tech sector? cemaphonic Mar 2014 #21
My teens use tech more than I do, and I base my career on the tech Android3.14 Mar 2014 #26
I am a white, male engineer and HPQ shareholder. mahatmakanejeeves Mar 2014 #19
Behind the scenes, blacks have contributed significantly to the tech sector..it just isn't kelliekat44 Mar 2014 #24
Jesse should work on getting a more diverse group into math and science. WhoWoodaKnew Mar 2014 #25
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