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Igel

(37,567 posts)
15. Putin's got his game on.
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 07:37 PM
Mar 2014

He managed to get enough people to buy that, well, we really didn't *know* that the "self-defense" forces were Russian. So it wasn't an invasion.

He know that the Ukrainians won't fight back. Perhaps if it were Russian troops in Russian gear with Russian insignias shots could be fired. Otherwise, put a crowd in their. The Ukrainians won't fire on potential civilians; and the Russians will continue to sell that the Ukrainian troops are weak, unprepared to stand their ground, and can be steamrolled; even as they say that Russians are at great risk from Ukrainians.

Aksenov claimed the ships. All sorts of infrastructure. Nationalized banks. He's allies were the Communist Party, and it's strange how Russia is structured, economically. Most of the oligarchs lost their corporations but are allowed to stay in positions of power. Imagine if all of the important corporatists in the US served, basically, at Obama's--or Bush II's--pleasure. Nationalization would have no terror--because the important, government-supported corporatists that support the Great Leader know that they will, in turn, be supported.

This happened before in Western Europe, and it wasn't one of the shining moments in the West.

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They are not trapped. They had been ordered not to leave newthinking Mar 2014 #1
Yes. I thought that was announced yesterday... ballyhoo Mar 2014 #2
This is an interesting development, if foreseeable. Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #3
Its democracy at work! Anansi1171 Mar 2014 #5
It's more like Realpolitik. Or did you believe that the Ukrainian Navy was going to lease a base... Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #6
Maybe they could have dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #9
You mean if the EU was prepared to lend that extra billion? Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #10
EU will only lend what they foresee being paid back measured by ability to repay. dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #12
I agree. Those who will pay for this game of imperial folly - will be the Ukrainian people. Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #14
How the fuck do Pro-Russian crowds seized two Ukrainian warships ? dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #4
I wouldn't be sure about the loyalty of the "Ukrainian" sailors. Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #7
Hey, how did an unarmed crowd topple the government in Kiev? JVS Mar 2014 #11
My guess is that the "Pro-Russian crowds" looked something like this. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2014 #13
I see the Russian military is doing a bang up job securing the region... Earth_First Mar 2014 #8
Citizen Militias on both sides are hyped up and out of control. newthinking Mar 2014 #16
Putin's got his game on. Igel Mar 2014 #15
The banks (like Privetbank) are still linked with Ukraine newthinking Mar 2014 #17
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