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Travis_0004

(5,417 posts)
27. Most of what you are proposing has been done.
Thu Mar 20, 2014, 11:14 PM
Mar 2014

Flat rate envelopes do exist. And you can order flat rate boxes/envelopes, and have them delivered to you.

In the last 7 years the post office would have lost 11 billion, even if they did not have to prefund the retirement plan.

Mail volume has dropped significantly. At my job we spent about 100 dollars a week in first class mail. We have dropped it to under 20.00 a week. At home I use online bill payment, and don't get a lot of mail. I go through less than 5 stamps a year.

As to the pre-funding retirement, I don't think its really a bad thing. If you are a letter carrier who is retiring today, and you were promised a monthly payment of X dollars, I think it would be good to know that the NPV of that promise is sitting in an investment account.

Compare that to a city like Detroit, which has been underfunding liabilities, and then they declare bankruptcy, and break a lot of promises that were made to the pensions.

Lets put it another way. If I owe you 10,000 dollars a year, for the next 10 years, would you rather know that I have 75k dollars in a savings account allocated to that payment, or would you rather me have 15,000, and tell you, don't worry, I got it covered.

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POS Congress fucked over the USPS and so once again fucked over Americans. nt valerief Mar 2014 #1
If the PO were a country... dixiegrrrrl Mar 2014 #8
This Christmas the USPS showed, once again, dotymed Mar 2014 #39
Yep, that GOP House is really a jobs creation machine. 10,000 to lose good jobs sinkingfeeling Mar 2014 #43
Except when they're raising the pension requirements on union jobs like USPS. nt valerief Mar 2014 #44
All due to Republicans screwing it over sakabatou Mar 2014 #2
^^ This. AzDar Mar 2014 #10
It wasn't a republican bill. It was bipartisan. Travis_0004 Mar 2014 #37
Ted Kennedy and Henry Waxman? madville Mar 2014 #23
Can't hang this one on the Repubs, they were ALL in on it. Kilgore Mar 2014 #28
That's going to make things even tougher for Amazon Sherman A1 Mar 2014 #3
Amazon... toddwv Mar 2014 #41
That's a lot of unemployed people. dreamstst Mar 2014 #4
Sure is and those folks are represented. lonestarnot Mar 2014 #31
Are they? dreamstst Mar 2014 #46
I know.. :( Cha Mar 2014 #53
Wonder what rural mail carriers will do newfie11 Mar 2014 #5
That's right. dreamstst Mar 2014 #47
Sure that won't effect the economy at all abelenkpe Mar 2014 #6
Through retirements and attrition yeoman6987 Mar 2014 #13
Nah, why save good union jobs. Who needs those? lonestarnot Mar 2014 #32
Why they don't permit POs to do credit union style simple banking transactions is beyond me. MADem Mar 2014 #7
That's easy. toddwv Mar 2014 #42
I am familiar with overpriced mail service, and it really does suck. MADem Mar 2014 #49
The GD'd Koch Sociopaths Are Behind the Financial "Struggle" BodieTown Mar 2014 #9
Looks bipartisan to me, the question is why....... Kilgore Mar 2014 #33
Somebody At DU Explained It Last Year BodieTown Mar 2014 #45
Koch whores and Dems are not mutually exclusive by any stretch Doctor_J Mar 2014 #50
I thought Republicans were against the government picking winners and losers ? Trust Buster Mar 2014 #11
It was a bipartisan bill madville Mar 2014 #26
I wonder how much this has to do ballyhoo Mar 2014 #12
I went on the USPS website for stats OnlinePoker Mar 2014 #14
God, I had no idea....... ballyhoo Mar 2014 #19
We must protect the horse carriage industry. Psephos Mar 2014 #15
Would you mind detailing some of the aspects of the outmoded business model? kristopher Mar 2014 #16
Sure. :) Psephos Mar 2014 #51
and yet they out-performed Fedex over Christmas Skittles Mar 2014 #52
That's perhaps the most argument-free response I've ever gotten here. n/t Psephos Mar 2014 #54
Congress has REFUSED to allow the USPS to change its business model BodieTown Mar 2014 #17
So Sherman A1 Mar 2014 #18
My brother was just telling me of the scandal in his town. Hassin Bin Sober Mar 2014 #22
Here: pa28 Mar 2014 #29
CONgress' anti-USPS finally paying its dividends. CONgress must be SO HAPPY. CONgress = job killers blkmusclmachine Mar 2014 #20
Not what we employees just heard PATRICK Mar 2014 #21
Dude lordsummerisle Mar 2014 #25
'They', congress? made them pre-fund billions in some 'retirement' account and screwed their books. Sunlei Mar 2014 #24
Most of what you are proposing has been done. Travis_0004 Mar 2014 #27
Another Internet Expert who has no clue what the hell he is talking about brentspeak Mar 2014 #48
Poison pill bill passed during * admin was designed to destroy the USPS Triana Mar 2014 #30
So why was it a bipartisan bill??? Kilgore Mar 2014 #34
Upthred, I said dotymed Mar 2014 #40
Because the lines at the post office aren't long enough. nt Deep13 Mar 2014 #35
Fuck the government SamKnause Mar 2014 #36
+1 newfie11 Mar 2014 #38
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