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newthinking

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16. Citizen Militias on both sides are hyped up and out of control.

Reply to Earth_First (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 21, 2014, 02:48 AM

Mar 2014

We don't like to say it, but there is essentially the start of civil war occurring, though it has not yet engaged the entire country and hopefully doesn't.

You make a good point though, there is a very real danger that nationalists on both sides (and right sector/svoboda, which is active in clashes) have the potential to escalate things. That is the real wild card out there.

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Pro-Russian crowds seize 2 Ukrainian warships [View all] Omaha Steve Mar 2014 OP

They are not trapped. They had been ordered not to leave newthinking Mar 2014 #1

Yes. I thought that was announced yesterday... ballyhoo Mar 2014 #2

This is an interesting development, if foreseeable. Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #3

Its democracy at work! Anansi1171 Mar 2014 #5

It's more like Realpolitik. Or did you believe that the Ukrainian Navy was going to lease a base... Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #6

Maybe they could have dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #9

You mean if the EU was prepared to lend that extra billion? Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #10

EU will only lend what they foresee being paid back measured by ability to repay. dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #12

I agree. Those who will pay for this game of imperial folly - will be the Ukrainian people. Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #14

How the fuck do Pro-Russian crowds seized two Ukrainian warships ? dipsydoodle Mar 2014 #4

I wouldn't be sure about the loyalty of the "Ukrainian" sailors. Democracyinkind Mar 2014 #7

Hey, how did an unarmed crowd topple the government in Kiev? JVS Mar 2014 #11

My guess is that the "Pro-Russian crowds" looked something like this. Tommy_Carcetti Mar 2014 #13

I see the Russian military is doing a bang up job securing the region... Earth_First Mar 2014 #8

Citizen Militias on both sides are hyped up and out of control. newthinking Mar 2014 #16

Putin's got his game on. Igel Mar 2014 #15

The banks (like Privetbank) are still linked with Ukraine newthinking Mar 2014 #17