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32. how about some facts

Sun Mar 23, 2014, 11:03 AM

Mar 2014

{Quote} Edward Snowden has not leaked a single document to any journalist since he left Hong Kong in June: 9 months ago. Back then, he provided a set of documents to several journalists and asked that we make careful judgments about what should and should not be published based on several criteria. He has played no role since then in deciding which documents are or are not reported. Those decisions are made entirely by media outlets that are in possession of those documents. Thus, calling a new NSA story “Snowden’s latest leak” or asking “why would Snowden decide to publish this now?” – as though he’s doling out documents one by one or deciding which documents should be published – is misleading in the extreme: those decisions are made exclusively by the journalists and editors of those news outlets. {/Quote}

"misleading in the extreme" --- that would be your post

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Targeting Huawei: NSA Spied on Chinese Government and Networking Firm [View all] Newsjock Mar 2014 OP

So, can anyone tell me why it wasnt it ok to reveal Plames name but revealing efforts at gathering cstanleytech Mar 2014 #1

I'm outraged creeksneakers2 Mar 2014 #2

Yes, "ignorance is bliss", "Truth? You can't handle the truth" dotymed Mar 2014 #25

So does it matter when China spies on us? Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #56

Sweet Jeebus..... Adrahil Mar 2014 #61

Wrong Question. A better one would be: "Why are we so paranoid that we feel this is even necessary?" RC Mar 2014 #3

Well, in this case, Huawei has a questionable past when it comes to penultimate Mar 2014 #5

We treat the Chinese like adversaries creeksneakers2 Mar 2014 #7

Then why are they our biggest trading partners? RC Mar 2014 #11

Its called constructive engagement creeksneakers2 Mar 2014 #12

a good questions for Chamber of Commerce affiliates who loves themselves some Supersedeas Mar 2014 #71

Have you ever heard of Pearl Harbor? baldguy Mar 2014 #13

Yeah, I've been there. RC Mar 2014 #15

Do you believe that none of these countries use their penultimate Mar 2014 #16

Pearl Harbor & 9/11 are proof that the world is not always happy, pure & safe. baldguy Mar 2014 #19

Here's one for you--You've never heard of PLA UNIT 61398? MADem Mar 2014 #17

That must be the reason the NSA was listening in on the phone calls of Angela Merkel, right? RC Mar 2014 #29

And that's why the entire EU shares the data they get when the listen in on us. MADem Mar 2014 #43

FWIW, Merkel was talking on a relatively unsecured phone Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #53

The missed point being, she should not have needed a secure phone. RC Mar 2014 #59

World leaders and heads of state don't need secure phones? Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #66

I may be wrong, but I'm under the impression penultimate Mar 2014 #72

To be fair, I'm pretty sure somewhere in those documents are proof Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #55

Don't jibe? Because they don't agree with your opinions? RC Mar 2014 #60

Not necessarily.... Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #67

It's paranoid to think the Chinese are worth spying on? NT Adrahil Mar 2014 #62

It is paranoid to think spying on our friends and us, US. RC Mar 2014 #65

eddie's a little god.. he can do whatever the fuck he wants.. but, no Cha Mar 2014 #24

Thought the files Snowden was safe, guess that did not work out well. Thinkingabout Mar 2014 #4

Yawn the Chinese are picking us clean.... Historic NY Mar 2014 #6

Go away Comrade Snowden.......... you time has come! Cryptoad Mar 2014 #8

Michelle Obama and the kids are visiting China--Eddie's just gotta make a stink! MADem Mar 2014 #20

how about some facts Rumold Mar 2014 #32

Yes, he HAS. MADem Mar 2014 #38

ok, your reading comprehension seems lacking Rumold Mar 2014 #46

I think the pot is calling the kettle, here. Your situational awareness is lacking. MADem Mar 2014 #47

in your fantasy world, did your reply make sense? Rumold Mar 2014 #49

Someone has no retort, plainly. MADem Mar 2014 #50

Post removed Post removed Mar 2014 #51

So, you're saying Snowden DOES have control over the material he's leaking? MADem Mar 2014 #52

Did St. Eddie STEAL those documents? Adrahil Mar 2014 #63

for a paradoy of a jr. high school gossip, you nailed it. Add <sarcasm> or someone will think pragmatic_dem Mar 2014 #33

I guess you're an expert on "jr. high school gossip" then? nt MADem Mar 2014 #37

i enjoy good parody and your performance is compelling, you clearly immerse yourself in the role pragmatic_dem Mar 2014 #45

Oh, a wee bit of pique! "Clearly!" MADem Mar 2014 #48

Der Spiegel is a big mean publicity-seeking poopyhead that dated a pole dancer! Newsjock Mar 2014 #9

I actually don't have a problem with this Ex Lurker Mar 2014 #10

Yes but what about Snowden revealing it? You kinda didnt address that aspect. cstanleytech Mar 2014 #14

Snowden is carrying water for the Military Industrial Complex with this revelation. MADem Mar 2014 #18

Good point, MADem.. Eddie is all.. neener neener neener.. The USA(bad) is spying Cha Mar 2014 #23

I've also noticed a certain 'pattern' in the general timing and topicality of specific releases... Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #57

I know.. a lot of us have, BT.. it doesn't Cha Mar 2014 #58

Give Snowden immunity and bring him home. cosmicone Mar 2014 #21

This sounds an awful lot like vdogg Mar 2014 #26

I doubt we are in a position to make any demands. cosmicone Mar 2014 #31

Heck no. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2014 #27

His cards will be seen by the whole world cosmicone Mar 2014 #30

The NSA is already a bad joke. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Mar 2014 #35

But..... but...... but......!!! MADem Mar 2014 #40

I've put what seems like half this site on ignore fujiyama Mar 2014 #22

^^^ This ^^^^ n/t cosmicone Mar 2014 #39

See post 40--supposedly, Snowden can't "end" this because he's not doing the leaking and MADem Mar 2014 #41

We've learned that Obama will NEVER challenge institutions: banks, CIA, FBI, NSA, insurance corps, pragmatic_dem Mar 2014 #44

Yeah some of these leaks are highly irresponsible. Not a good one this. BenzoDia Mar 2014 #28

maybe we should have thought about that before selling millions of jobs and $trillions in technology pragmatic_dem Mar 2014 #34

Who here actually has problems with spying on China? iandhr Mar 2014 #36

Yep. I can't fathom the outrage, especially since their operation makes ours look like MADem Mar 2014 #42

Not me. n/t FSogol Mar 2014 #70

So after all that vetting and scrutineering, why would SnowWald leak documents of what looks like a Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #54

Let's play a game. randome Mar 2014 #64

You're actually half-right already Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #69

I've been to their headquarters in Plano snooper2 Mar 2014 #68