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Blue_Tires

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25. MtGox finds 200,000 Bitcoin down the back of the couch
Mon Mar 24, 2014, 01:18 AM
Mar 2014

I don’t think any of us thought that MtGox was particularly well managed but the more we find out the worse it all seems to get. For today they’ve announced that they’ve just found 200,000 Bitcoins that had slipped down the back of the couch. No, really, someone running an exchange, offering a safekeeping and conversion facility, managed to just lose in their own systems over $115,000,000 at today’s prices, and what was once worth $200,000,000. It was in an old wallet that they thought was empty you see:

There’s two implications of this announcement. The first being that the organisation wasn’t, in fact, an organisation at all. It was a bunch of script kiddies having a lark. This isn’t, perhaps, the greatest of surprises to anyone who has been following the story.

The second is that MtGox has clearly been trading insolvently since June 2011. For those not entirely current on accounting law (and why should you be? This is a most, most, boring area) this is one of those no-nos that every entrepreneur is warned about. It’s OK to go bust: failure is how we learn. But don’t cross over into fraud and deception which is what insolvent trading is.

Think through what is being said here. They found these Bitcoin in an old wallet that was used before June 2011. And they’ve only just found them: therefore, between June 2011 and March 7 2014 they had a hole of 200,000 Bitcoin in their accounts. Yes, they were still there: but the management must have known that they didn’t have them for it to be even possible for them to have just found them. At which point the management should have stopped trading. Because with that 200,000 hole there’s no way that they could have met their accumulated financial obligations. This is what it means to trade insolvently. To pretend that you’ll be able to meet past, current and future financial obligations while knowing that you’ll not be able to do so.

http://pando.com/2014/03/21/mtgox-finds-200000-bitcoin-down-the-back-of-the-couch/

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I never find any money in my old wallets. n/t PoliticAverse Mar 2014 #1
Have they checked the electronic couch cushions? brooklynite Mar 2014 #2
Thread win! KamaAina Mar 2014 #3
Do Cheetos come in Electronic Format? PeoViejo Mar 2014 #4
No, you can print them from a 3d printer, but it only takes bit coins. olddad56 Mar 2014 #13
Bwah!!! That about tears it. zonkers Mar 2014 #22
They should check in the old-format "in the crack between the sofa cushions and the sofa" too. DesertDiamond Mar 2014 #5
So they found their imaginary money in an imaginary old wallet. Now that's funny. OregonBlue Mar 2014 #6
I surprised that they didn't find the exact amount that they imagined was missing in the old wallet olddad56 Mar 2014 #14
Yeah, that REALLY makes me want to put my money Kelvin Mace Mar 2014 #7
200,000 more reasons to avoid bitcoin like the plauge. rocktivity Mar 2014 #8
Must have been on an old ZIP drive. AtheistCrusader Mar 2014 #9
Maybe they should also check under the digital mattress and under the digital sofa cushions LynneSin Mar 2014 #10
There is a reason why Bitcoin is an experimental currency. mwooldri Mar 2014 #11
I bet someone emptied the bitcoin jar into that wallet, kentauros Mar 2014 #12
and then their dog bit the wallet. olddad56 Mar 2014 #15
Yeah, but chewed up bitcoins kentauros Mar 2014 #16
but will it make the dog virtually sick to eat so many bitcoins? VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #26
Yes. kentauros Mar 2014 #29
Esp that Dr McAfee...he loony... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #30
Insidiously loony! kentauros Mar 2014 #31
If Karpeles can shit another 550,000 Bitcoin, people might quit wanting to drown him jmowreader Mar 2014 #17
This wasn't even the first time Mt. Gox had lost people's money fujiyama Mar 2014 #18
The shady exchanges are the only market for bitcoin KamaAina Mar 2014 #19
Stashed in a .... paleotn Mar 2014 #20
I highly recommend they check the backyard at that swank Bachelor Pad they built in Second Life... VanillaRhapsody Mar 2014 #27
ROFL! KamaAina Mar 2014 #28
There was also a bitcondom and some illegible code scribbled on a cocktail napkin in there Tom Ripley Mar 2014 #21
Told ya ... MindMover Mar 2014 #23
I have a virtual bridge to virtually sell you... icymist Mar 2014 #24
MtGox finds 200,000 Bitcoin down the back of the couch Blue_Tires Mar 2014 #25
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