Study finds E-cigarettes don’t help smokers quit

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130. No study. Walking around on the street. And all those e-cig stores ain't charities.

Don't need a study to see the results. All those products are being sold to someone. When I talk with other vapers, it is quite rare to find one that still smokes tobacco cigarettes any longer. (note - They said e-cigs and I said vapers - two different products). Some do, but most don't that I have met, which is an admittedly small sample. I don't know any that started vaping before they started with cigs. I'm sure they are out there, but perhaps they stand out because of their difference.

There is a woman who run a small store not far from here, sells e-liquid, vaping pipes. She has a personal mission to stop people from smoking tobacco cigs. She converts person after person, working with their nicotine level and vaping pipe to make it easy. And those people return to buy liquids, and keep her up to date on how long it has been since they had a tobacco cig. They have no motivation to lie, and she has several hundred regular customers at the one small store.

It wasn't clear in what I read that these people had any intention of substituting e-cigs for their regular cigs, but that they had picked them up and tried them. The e-cig isn't going to jump up off the table and beat them over the head to stop them. It has to be easy to use, tasty, and have the right amount of nicotine to satisfy their addiction. From what I could read of the study they addressed none of that.

There is no economic incentive to put the products through the extensive and expensive testing to prove they do what they already do, and I am not sure they should. It possible that it is nearly as profitable to just sell them as a substitute.

I would like to see a large study in which these are used, properly and by someone who understand how to manipulate the nicotine level for results, where we have placebos, and other methods of stopping, and see who is off tobacco cigs after a year, and 5 years. But unless someone along the lines of George Soros funds it, I don't know who would have that much discretionary cash. I'd really like to see the same thing with vapers, who are qualitatively different and with a different experience.

I would bet almost anything that vaping pipes, and possibly e-cigs, used properly, have a higher rate of people getting off of tobacco than any method out there.

Mine is just an opinion, of course, but I am not going to change it based on that somewhat questionable "study", when I can see the evidence all around me every day.