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44. What you are saying is that the notary must make a judgement.

Thu Mar 27, 2014, 09:10 AM

Mar 2014

The notary must feel that the signer isn't being coerced and that the document relates to something unlawful. You say this yourself.

Thus, whether or not YOU as a notary see an issue here, IT'S A JUDGEMENT CALL. Sorry that they made a different judgment than you *might*, given the limited knowledge we all have about what was being notarized in a highly inflammatory article ("bank denies..."? um, no).

I find it interesting that all of the people screaming on this thread ignore two highly salient points. One, that the "bank" had nothing to do with this, and two, that the customer was provided the service they requested in a timely manner, regardless of who actually provided the service.

It didn't even sound like the notary was even that rude. They said that they had an unspecified personal problem, and found someone to replace themselves. If their objection was for any other "reason" than you are assuming, nobody would be batting an eye. ("I'm terribly sorry, I'm having PTSD flashbacks from 'Nam. Let me find you someone else to complete this.&quot

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NJ bank won’t notarize American Atheist documents for ‘personal reasons’ [View all] Judi Lynn Mar 2014 OP

Jesus. They should close any accounts and go to UPS Store for notary services. Hoyt Mar 2014 #1

David Ferguson wrote a misleading headline. greyl Mar 2014 #2

And she should be fired. nt Walk away Mar 2014 #3

No. In no uncertain terms. No. Android3.14 Mar 2014 #13

Are you serious? She won't notarize a document because... Walk away Mar 2014 #14

You're wrong -- notaries can not refuse to sign on grounds of race or religion starroute Mar 2014 #16

Atheism isn't a religion, though NickB79 Mar 2014 #18

It's still discrimination on the basis of relgiion starroute Mar 2014 #32

I'm thinking she refused cntrygrl Mar 2014 #35

I am a notary FlaGranny Mar 2014 #40

Agreed LibertyLover Mar 2014 #47

You can't be that stupid. baldguy Mar 2014 #53

you're seriously trying to get us to believe that? CreekDog Mar 2014 #54

I still say no Android3.14 Mar 2014 #22

Notary Publics are commissioned by the State SteveG Mar 2014 #28

As FLGranny said, it is not the notary's job to vet the document. It is about the signature. DeschutesRiver Mar 2014 #52

it's her FUCKING job.. frylock Mar 2014 #23

She should be fired. NutmegYankee Mar 2014 #38

It's not like "raw story" is a real news organization snooper2 Mar 2014 #7

Give us some examples of who you think are "real news organizations." nm rhett o rick Mar 2014 #17

VICE snooper2 Mar 2014 #42

Of course she said that. No one is running until they run. Is Clinton-Sachs running? rhett o rick Mar 2014 #46

No, she actually said, "not run for president in 2016" snooper2 Mar 2014 #49

Can the person who refused have their right to be a public notary revoked? cstanleytech Mar 2014 #4

stupidity quakerboy Mar 2014 #5

That notary has no business being a notary....... PumpkinAle Mar 2014 #6

Does atheism fall under any of that, though? NickB79 Mar 2014 #19

I think you are splitting hairs. Freedom of religion also means freedom from religion. If one 1monster Mar 2014 #31

"religion" means religious beliefs/beliefs concerning religion TorchTheWitch Mar 2014 #33

Yes they are, are you honestly asking questions here? Humanist_Activist Mar 2014 #43

The person who refused the group service should either be put on leave or fired. sakabatou Mar 2014 #8

Pharmacists are allowed to do this to women by law frazzled Mar 2014 #9

Yes they are, and it causes a great deal more harm than walking across the floor for another notary. freshwest Mar 2014 #36

That's just stupid. AverageJoe90 Mar 2014 #10

Roy Torcaso would have had a fit. no_hypocrisy Mar 2014 #11

Has the term The Wizard Mar 2014 #12

"Failing to honor the poor" sofa king Mar 2014 #15

As long as it's an amorphous sincerely held belief Politicub Mar 2014 #20

Maybe they should try Agnostic seveneyes Mar 2014 #21

perfect, it is all going according to plan... pragmatic_dem Mar 2014 #24

I wonder if this will start AsahinaKimi Mar 2014 #25

you raise a very good point, as lower echelons fight amongst ourselves... pragmatic_dem Mar 2014 #27

"They believe they can just buy their way out of any problem of their own making." AsahinaKimi Mar 2014 #30

Notarizing means the notary witnessed the signature, not endorsing the American Atheists, Inc. muntrv Mar 2014 #26

And then she probably turns around and says it's 'known' that Atheists don't donate to charity ck4829 Mar 2014 #29

Yawn. eggplant Mar 2014 #34

+1 astral Mar 2014 #39

A document has no need to make sense FlaGranny Mar 2014 #41

What you are saying is that the notary must make a judgement. eggplant Mar 2014 #44

+1 kristopher Mar 2014 #45

She is probably religious Shankapotomus Mar 2014 #37

Misleading headline. Lars28 Mar 2014 #48

Yes, but if they write the headlike for that, no one will read the story and be outraged. n/t hughee99 Mar 2014 #50

Yep, more page hits this way. :) Lars28 Mar 2014 #51

Religious people can be strange treestar Mar 2014 #55