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Bozvotros

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5. Big tobacco and big government joined hands for this one....
Sat Mar 17, 2012, 10:29 PM
Mar 2012

Because smokers actually cost society less than non smokers. They die about 10 years sooner. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/08/how-much-does-smoking-cos_n_184554.html/

That represents a big savings in social security and medicare no matter how you cut it. So arguing that smokers should pay more because they cost more is just another big lie. Gets tiresome doesn't it? By making smokers pariahs, no one minds if they are forced to pay a huge dishonest "health" tax on each pack, a burden that fast food afficionados bypass....pardon the pun. Smoking is a huge cash cow for both state and federal government. If people are growing and rolling their own that is a huge chunk of change they will be missing.

Big Pharma, Big Tobacco and Big Gummint will be coming after e-cigarettes soon too. Count on it. E-cigarettes are catching on and represent the fastest, easiest way to get off the cancer sticks. Too bad Big Pharma didn't think of them first because then they could have jacked the price through the roof and put them under patents and sold them as health care devices and had the FDA protect their profits on them. But they didn't. Screw them. The government is worried that e-cigs will cut into their tax revenue and the pharmaceutical companies are afraid they won't keep making billions on their cessation drugs that are dangerous and ineffective and nicotine replacement methods that don't work. And tobacco companies just want people to keep smoking because it is so damn cheap to make and the profits are so good.

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I expect if cannabis is ever legalized this kind of crap will become the norm tridim Mar 2012 #1
Yea, if they could only figure out a way to stop the home grown stuff nolabels Mar 2012 #2
Home Grown Tobacco? Trillo Mar 2012 #26
This is the kind of bad idea that fuels the right's eyewall Mar 2012 #3
see if there is a way to make this bite them back. indivisibleman Mar 2012 #4
Big tobacco and big government joined hands for this one.... Bozvotros Mar 2012 #5
Secondhand smoke harms nonsmokers CreekDog Mar 2012 #10
Oh please. ElboRuum Mar 2012 #19
why are you writing this to me? your message has nothing to do with mine CreekDog Mar 2012 #20
The point you were making... ElboRuum Mar 2012 #24
the law doesn't keep smokers away from nonsmokers --it keeps them apart in a few places CreekDog Mar 2012 #25
Wait a minute ElboRuum Mar 2012 #27
what are you disagreeing with me on? CreekDog Mar 2012 #30
Uh.. that first part. ElboRuum Mar 2012 #31
this kind of underhanded, slimy, "earmark" legislation should be a felony 2banon Mar 2012 #6
I'm with you - vote by issue socialindependocrat Mar 2012 #8
Line item veto? CreekDog Mar 2012 #11
It has more to do about lost revenues in NY State RYO is on the radar soon.. Historic NY Mar 2012 #7
Corruption. Call it what it is. Our country is BOUGHT. dorksied Mar 2012 #9
I have mixed feelings about this Major Nikon Mar 2012 #12
We need an Occupy the Amendment process nanabugg Mar 2012 #13
When You have a Fascist Government ChunderingTruth Mar 2012 #14
Are they talking about one of these ? dipsydoodle Mar 2012 #15
The ones I used back in the day only cost a buck: IDemo Mar 2012 #16
Back in the 70's dipsydoodle Mar 2012 #17
The plastic rolling machines they sell today only cost $1.49 tridim Mar 2012 #18
No, one of these: Spider Jerusalem Mar 2012 #21
Nope. One of these... rucky Mar 2012 #22
Wait, I thought we were supposed to be against tobacco in general or is that only when it cstanleytech Mar 2012 #23
Who told you that? ElboRuum Mar 2012 #28
"I always thought we were supposed to do our own thinking..." cstanleytech Mar 2012 #29
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