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happyslug

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39. That is what the Ukraine will get anyway, Russia holds their source of energy
Wed Apr 2, 2014, 02:10 PM
Apr 2014

And as long as the Ukraine is dependent on Russia for Energy, the only sovereignty they will have is what Russia gives them (and why support for war with Russia is big among US elites, but lukewarm at best among our fellow NATO allies).

A good example of this is the US and Saudi Arabia. Does the US protest when the House of Saud Executes someone? Does the US protest Saudi Arabian support for Pakistan and the Taliban? No, why? That is OUR source of energy.

And if you believe the US will be self sufficient by 2017, you would be correct, the US is headed for self sufficiency by 2017 do to fracking, and returning to being heavily dependent on Arabia oil by 2020. The "Tight" oil fields have a life span of less then five years, with most of the oil gone within 18 months of any wells be drilled. The sheer level of drilling will increase US oil output over the next 2-3 years, but by then the US will hit a wall, as every well previously drilled drops in production, the new wells being drill will bring in less and less oil. i.e. more and more wells will be drilled, but each new well will bring in less oil then older wells did when they were first drilled AND the oil produced from such existing wells will decline rapidly.

Yes, Fracking is a bubble, but unlike economic bubbles this one is known and predictable.

For more on Fracking and the Fracking bubble:

http://shalebubble.org/

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2013-10-10/u-dot-s-dot-shale-oil-boom-may-not-last-as-fracking-wells-lack-staying-power

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Sigh..... PuraVidaDreamin Apr 2014 #1
Because it reveals what complete babes in the wood the Ukrainian Elite are Demeter Apr 2014 #4
the only part of that anyone could dispute is how long it will take. yurbud Apr 2014 #44
Nothing quite like inflaming a situation. dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #2
You bet it's inflaming the situation. It is NUTS! snappyturtle Apr 2014 #29
ready to spring across the border dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #30
The picutre didn't show for me. Here's an article, about NBC coverage, snappyturtle Apr 2014 #31
Thanks for that article dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #35
STUPID, STUPID, STUPID. GeorgeGist Apr 2014 #3
This doesn't seem like a wise idea. n/t Comrade Grumpy Apr 2014 #5
They are trying to bring back the cold war. Lars28 Apr 2014 #11
Russia reinvigorated NATO. TwilightGardener Apr 2014 #6
Or: Nato now has a new excuse for existing. Lars28 Apr 2014 #10
They've been forced to welcome NATO by Putin stealing a chunk of their country uhnope Apr 2014 #7
"Forced"? "Stealing"? Lars28 Apr 2014 #9
truth hurts. Putin's not going to invade any NATO countries and Ukraine appreciates that uhnope Apr 2014 #14
Putin was never going to "invade" Ukraine, except for Crimea. Lars28 Apr 2014 #15
The rest of Ukraine would have got "limited sovereignty" from dictator Putin Kolesar Apr 2014 #17
That is what the Ukraine will get anyway, Russia holds their source of energy happyslug Apr 2014 #39
Putin was never going to invade Ukraine, except for the part he did invade. name not needed Apr 2014 #18
Post removed Post removed Apr 2014 #21
Then he should pull his troops back from the southern and eastern border with amandabeech Apr 2014 #23
Paranoia is normal for a country without natural borders happyslug Apr 2014 #40
Happyslug, the word you are looking for is "steppes," not "steeps." amandabeech Apr 2014 #43
Do you think Putin would have went into Crimea if Ukraine was a member of NATO before? penultimate Apr 2014 #27
If Ukraine had agreed to join NATO, Russia would have developed the Black Sea ports amandabeech Apr 2014 #32
I think Putin would have, the question then is what would NATO have done. happyslug Apr 2014 #41
you cardboard cutout comrades are a gas. dionysus Apr 2014 #42
NATO suspends civilian and military cooperation with Russia Bosonic Apr 2014 #8
And if Putin marches into Ukraine, which he has threatened, amandabeech Apr 2014 #24
Ukraine is acting like a submissive cosmicone Apr 2014 #12
They look pretty dominant in this picture. Lars28 Apr 2014 #22
You realize that's a Svoboda rally... Xithras Apr 2014 #33
Or like somebody who, Igel Apr 2014 #26
may as well toss a little kerosene on the fire. olddad56 Apr 2014 #13
Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2014 #16
War Games involving planes? I think I've seen this movie before. BelgianMadCow Apr 2014 #19
K&R + Ukraine's Inconvenient Neo-Nazis by Robert Parry bobthedrummer Apr 2014 #20
"F*CK THE EU!" It's about NATO! cprise Apr 2014 #25
I agree! Ukraine belongs to Russia and no one has a right to stop them... penultimate Apr 2014 #28
Its more accurate to say Russia considers NATO a hostile bunch. n/t cprise Apr 2014 #34
Its more accurate to say NATO considers Russia a hostile bunch. n/t EX500rider Apr 2014 #36
Do they WANT Russia to invade? arewenotdemo Apr 2014 #37
Actually, Sir, That Pretty Well Assures No Invasion By Russia The Magistrate Apr 2014 #38
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