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66. There sure are a lot of anti-communist liberals here.

Reply to ChangoLoa (Original post)

Wed Apr 2, 2014, 07:34 PM

Apr 2014

Hubert Humphrey would be proud.

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55% [of Venezuelans] believe Maduro's government "is not democratic anymore" [View all] ChangoLoa Mar 2014 OP

Yes. Or that the CIA has successfully infiltrated the organization. Or kochs. Whatever works! 7962 Mar 2014 #1

And so that justifies a coup? zeemike Mar 2014 #2

No, they talk about a Constituent Assembly, not a coup ChangoLoa Mar 2014 #3

No, that's not how it works - elected leaders are elected leaders Yo_Mama Mar 2014 #4

100% correct n/t Bacchus4.0 Mar 2014 #7

So anyone who is in opposition to the government cannot be arrested? zeemike Mar 2014 #11

Theoretically, everyone can be arrested, even Maduro ChangoLoa Mar 2014 #15

"He sent paramilitary groups to repress protests." zeemike Mar 2014 #23

the colectivos (paramilitaries) are right there with the national guard and police Bacchus4.0 Mar 2014 #31

Maduro calls PSUV paramilitary forces to repress protests (mandatory broadcast on TV) ChangoLoa Mar 2014 #34

and there is plenty of video showing colectivos operating along side the police and NG too n/t Bacchus4.0 Mar 2014 #38

The regime is arresting elected leaders who have not committed crimes. Yo_Mama Mar 2014 #46

Well you seem to know more about it than I do. zeemike Mar 2014 #48

Ms Machado was impeached/ousted for clearly breaking constitutional law. Mika Apr 2014 #67

If Obama threw governors and mayors in jail because demonstrations happened in their states and MADem Apr 2014 #52

It actually makes a coup from the left more likely hack89 Mar 2014 #5

That's definitely possible. n/t Yo_Mama Mar 2014 #47

If I had to bet, I'd bet on that. After all Cabello was in the Army with Chavez. MADem Apr 2014 #54

WHAT Coup are you talking about? brooklynite Mar 2014 #6

Well violent demonstrations that call for him to resign is a coup. zeemike Mar 2014 #10

Calling on someone to resign is not a coup! hrmjustin Mar 2014 #14

And forcing that resignation with violence is a wrong. zeemike Mar 2014 #25

Well violence is wrong no matter who does it but protesting is a right. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #28

Well the country is losing faith in our president too. zeemike Mar 2014 #30

Well if Maduro doesn't listen to his people he won't be re-elected. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #35

And that is as it should be. zeemike Mar 2014 #36

I agree. hrmjustin Mar 2014 #37

Calling for him to resign is a coup? wall_dish Mar 2014 #24

Calling for it no, but with violent demonstrations zeemike Mar 2014 #29

Richard Nixon was not impeached. wall_dish Mar 2014 #32

Same difference. zeemike Mar 2014 #39

True that Clinton was impeached in the House, but he wasn't convicted in the Senate, wall_dish Mar 2014 #40

Nixon would have been convicted in the Senate. amandabeech Apr 2014 #59

I dont think the OP has suggested they have a coup. Just that the majority know they made a mistake. 7962 Mar 2014 #8

Even most elements of the opposition don't favor the "salida" approach. MADem Apr 2014 #51

And that is what our right says about Obama. zeemike Apr 2014 #53

No no no--I am afraid you are not understanding. Maduro IS "ruling by decree." MADem Apr 2014 #55

Well you are the expert on that country so you must be right. zeemike Apr 2014 #57

Why are you saying such uninformed--and frankly rude--things? MADem Apr 2014 #58

because every thing is a CIA plot orchestrated by debbil USA... dionysus Apr 2014 #63

Heh heh! MADem Apr 2014 #64

there's a black helicopter hovering over my house.. gotta go! dionysus Apr 2014 #65

El Universal is sort of like the Wall Street Journal of Venezuela. reformist2 Mar 2014 #9

Consider the source El Universal hates all things socialist. fasttense Mar 2014 #12

El Universal is not the source. But 84% of chavistas do believe Ven is democratic Bacchus4.0 Mar 2014 #17

The source is the polling firm IVAD, the same one venezuelanalysis uses ChangoLoa Mar 2014 #18

No Kidding. fasttense Mar 2014 #42

Strange poll - the questions themselves, while not a push poll, are negatively phrased karynnj Mar 2014 #13

Another polling source would likely result in worse numbers for the Maduro admin. 74% situation bad Bacchus4.0 Mar 2014 #16

and so they would vote to return to neoliberal orthodoxy that grinds the poor and middle class to yurbud Mar 2014 #19

Do you think we're a stupid people? Or just a bit primitive maybe? ChangoLoa Mar 2014 #20

I hope Venezuela has more choices. Unfortunately, a lot of center left parties turn out to be yurbud Mar 2014 #21

True. But there's lots of political creativity in Latin America nowadays ChangoLoa Mar 2014 #26

"More Americans than ever disapprove of the way President Obama is doing his job." Comrade Grumpy Mar 2014 #22

his approval rating isn't the subject of the OP, its whether people believe that Ven is a democracy Bacchus4.0 Mar 2014 #27

I wonder what the results would be if that question was asked here? zeemike Mar 2014 #43

Well just searched for it and found similar results about how Americans feel... zeemike Mar 2014 #44

Calling on someone who is responsible for the deaths of his own citizens is not a coup dlwickham Mar 2014 #33

That case could be made about Obama. zeemike Mar 2014 #41

so you're comparing dlwickham Mar 2014 #45

Yikes! ... 1000words Mar 2014 #49

That is mind blowing logic. zeemike Mar 2014 #50

not going to cry over a dead terrorist dlwickham Apr 2014 #61

Convicted by who? zeemike Apr 2014 #62

You mean they're getting to be more like us? :-| n/t DeSwiss Apr 2014 #56

55% believe mistranslations. AngryAmish Apr 2014 #60

There sure are a lot of anti-communist liberals here. Lars28 Apr 2014 #66