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RainDog

(28,784 posts)
81. No, he doesn't...but he does
Mon Apr 7, 2014, 03:59 AM
Apr 2014
...In addition to the 1961 Single Convention, two other international treaties have a direct bearing on international control of narcotics and psychotropic substances. These are the 1971 Convention on Psychotropic Substances, which, enacted after an upsurge of drug use in the 1960s, added certain synthetic, prescription, and hallucinogenic drugs (including LSD) to the list of controlled substances. The 1988 United Nations Convention Against Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs and Psychotropic Substances was enacted in response to an increase in trafficking. The 1988 Convention required member countries, for the first time, to criminalize possession for personal consumption. Notably, the 1988 Convention did not specify how users were to be punished; only that ―possession, purchase or cultivation for personal consumption be made a criminal offense. The 1988 Convention specifically states that its implementation should be accompanied by prudence and is subject to each party’s ―constitutional principles and basic concepts of its legal system.

These three international treaties constitute the international law concerning the control of narcotic drugs and psychotropic substances. The treaties are not ―self-executing, meaning that each country must enact laws implementing the treaties in their own jurisdictions. The Conventions are legally binding pursuant to the 1969 Vienna Convention on the Law of Treaties—a country ―may not circumscribe its obligations under the treaties by enacting a conflicting domestic law. On the other hand, there is no international police force standing at the ready to force countries to fulfill their obligations. The INCB has no real power to enforce them: its powers are limited to ―quiet diplomacy, or ―blaming and shaming. In extreme cases, the INCB can recommend an embargo on all prescription medicines coming into or going out of a country. In our interview with former U.S. Assistant Secretary of State for Narcotics and current INCB member Melvyn Levitsky, he noted that this is ―not a strong provision, since, for humanitarian reasons, it is highly unlikely such a measure would ever be taken against a country.

http://www2.nycbar.org/pdf/report/uploads/3_20072283-InternationalDrugControlTreaties.pdf


Since the U.S. was the nation behind the INCB treaties, however, you are asking the AG to ignore current federal and international legal standing for this nation (and thus the world - current UN agreement on this issue was under contention in the fall as nations set 10 year policy, so the conflict already exists for other states - and the UN is complaining - but their complaints have nothing really negative to back them up.)

It could be done, but I don't think this issue is important enough to the Obama Administration to take that sort of step - and I think they are rolling out any such changes cautiously, while watching CO and WA to see if the fears of social conservatives are founded.

But, yes, the reality is that many nations are ignoring this treaty - at least 11 of them, b/c they offer Sativex or, in the case of Uruguay, they have legalized mj - but under conditions of state control, not a free-for-all market - and they plan to sell internationally to Canada and Israel (two of the nations that offer Sativex for ms or a few other conditions - so they will also be in violation of international drug treaties when this happens. But no one is mentioning the reality that 10 nations currently sell marijuana as a mouth spray b/c it's a pharma product (and has had former Republican drug warriors lobbying for it - irony of life, but, well, not, huh, when money is to be made by Bayer, etc.)

However, if Holder rescheduled, the impact would be on granting access to med mj supplied by the fed. govt. for cannabis research and it would let the Drug Czar's office be able to talk about the issue w/o lying - which they have to do at this time.

But it would not make cannabis legal and would not change the current tension b/t state and federal law.

The way for that to happen is via the Democratic bill to move cannabis to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms - so that it can be regulated like alcohol.

So if you want to do something as an activist in support of the issue, call your reps and tell them you support the Polis and Blumenaur bills that have not yet, afaik, gotten a hearing.

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That's excellent. Bluenorthwest Apr 2014 #1
At this point, CONgress is not a welcome addition to anything. appal_jack Apr 2014 #31
We've had this "debate" before ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #48
Well, Congress makes law. If the law is to be changed, without any suggestions that MADem Apr 2014 #67
Then shut up and just do it! Kelvin Mace Apr 2014 #2
Exactly. polichick Apr 2014 #52
BS. Doesnt Need Them billhicks76 Apr 2014 #74
No, he doesn't...but he does RainDog Apr 2014 #81
Saying you want to consult with the Republicans Kelvin Mace Apr 2014 #84
Congress is too busy trying to have him tossed out of office for being black on the job. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2014 #3
Just do it! cui bono Apr 2014 #4
now he can blame congress instead of the administration lol nt msongs Apr 2014 #5
This is an issue for Congress RainDog Apr 2014 #6
Sad state of affairs ... but so unfortunately true ... nt MindMover Apr 2014 #8
It's funny that Republicans are suddenly big federal govt. supporters RainDog Apr 2014 #9
and AMEN ... democracy costs tooo much ... nt MindMover Apr 2014 #10
btw, would you mind reposting this RainDog Apr 2014 #11
sure ... MindMover Apr 2014 #12
It's funny how now that Rick Perry is not running for Texas Governor again his opinions are Dustlawyer Apr 2014 #14
I'm hoping it's possible to appeal to the fiscal side RainDog Apr 2014 #17
Thank you AG Holder! Cha Apr 2014 #7
KnR Hekate Apr 2014 #13
If Holder has the power under the CSA to remove marijuana from the Schedule I list mountain grammy Apr 2014 #15
This is election year politics Grammy, keep the issue hot for the election. bemildred Apr 2014 #37
good advice, and yes, it would. mountain grammy Apr 2014 #39
It Could be a VERY Bad Thing AndyTiedye Apr 2014 #77
This Congress is largely incapable of addressing anything. nt bemildred Apr 2014 #82
He should drop it down to the same schedule as parsley and thyme. AAO Apr 2014 #44
for sure! mountain grammy Apr 2014 #47
Don't forget sage and rosemary. :) polichick Apr 2014 #51
We could make a song out of that! AAO Apr 2014 #56
Yep! Here it is from The Concert in Central Park... polichick Apr 2014 #57
He has the (shared) power to ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2014 #68
passing the buck Enrique Apr 2014 #16
Just election year rhetoric without action... polichick Apr 2014 #53
This isn't the first time Holder has passed up doing..... idendoit Apr 2014 #18
It should be up to the medical community, like women's health. ehrnst Apr 2014 #19
I laugh when Republicans say RainDog Apr 2014 #21
Unfortunately ... Big Money again ... but we are finally getting to know exactly who they are ... MindMover Apr 2014 #23
This medicine helps people SHRED Apr 2014 #20
In context - isn't this challenge? RainDog Apr 2014 #22
Let them howl SHRED Apr 2014 #32
Gupta's reports RainDog Apr 2014 #33
But what about all the lost jobs? RoccoR5955 Apr 2014 #24
This message was self-deleted by its author RainDog Apr 2014 #25
K&R!!! That, would be a smart move. We waste far too much money and lives on RKP5637 Apr 2014 #26
More nonsense fron the nonsense administration. What's with these guys? PSPS Apr 2014 #27
Righteous indignation ... hmmmmmmm MindMover Apr 2014 #28
"Remember. When you are indignant, you can't be fully with the people you love here at DU..." jtuck004 Apr 2014 #34
Congress? WORK?? HAHAHAHA DiverDave Apr 2014 #29
It would put the ball in their court, so to speak. rickyhall Apr 2014 #30
slow train comin otherone Apr 2014 #35
Rescheduling is not a pancea and would not accomplish what most people think it would Sgent Apr 2014 #36
Prescription drug lobby The Wizard Apr 2014 #38
What's Congress got to do with it, Mr Holder? malthaussen Apr 2014 #40
'Expertise exists in Congress." I almost choked on that gem. Wish to God they did have expertise. Stardust Apr 2014 #55
Tap dance. Feral Child Apr 2014 #41
The administration could do that without Congress...this is just politicking. Means little NorthCarolina Apr 2014 #42
I don't believe a word that prick says. Lars28 Apr 2014 #43
Me neither. Tarnation6 Apr 2014 #71
He is an untrustworthy bait-the-trap SOB. Manuel Beingman Apr 2014 #79
What's the difference between Eric Holder and the snake in the Garden? aurelio17 Apr 2014 #80
I had a spark of hope there for a moment... Out of Time Man Apr 2014 #45
I'd be impressed if voters would elect representatives in their own states to congress to do it. freshwest Apr 2014 #49
and AMEN ... nt MindMover Apr 2014 #50
yes yes tazkcmo Apr 2014 #70
Thanks. freshwest Apr 2014 #72
Don't get me wrong... Out of Time Man Apr 2014 #76
I agree. n/t tazkcmo Apr 2014 #83
Exactly. Pun intended, it is a cop out. Warren Stupidity Apr 2014 #73
The end time for pot prohibition is coming. Comrade Grumpy Apr 2014 #46
Yes, whether Eric Holder likes it or not. aurelio17 Apr 2014 #75
He doesn't need the approval of Congress or anybody else to do it. kestrel91316 Apr 2014 #54
Right, but.... aurelio17 Apr 2014 #85
Wonder what is meant by "abuse" in "high potential for abuse"? Trillo Apr 2014 #58
Then there's this RainDog Apr 2014 #59
And the plot thickens .... MindMover Apr 2014 #60
This message was self-deleted by its author RainDog Apr 2014 #61
Write on, PLEASE ... you have enough posts on the subject just in DU ... MindMover Apr 2014 #62
... RainDog Apr 2014 #63
Thank you for considering and keep me posted on the project .... nt MindMover Apr 2014 #64
well, back to "reality" RainDog Apr 2014 #65
Most of the time there excuse is, "the people do not know what is best for them " MindMover Apr 2014 #66
If left to congress, I doubt it will happen... wildbilln864 Apr 2014 #69
Hey Eric! DeSwiss Apr 2014 #78
Eric is the latest warrant46 Apr 2014 #86
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