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In reply to the discussion: US Navy 'Game-Changer': Converting Seawater into Fuel [View all]muriel_volestrangler
(106,564 posts)42. The warming effect of carbon dioxide is about physics, not statistics
That's what's been known for 150 years.
Here, see what scientists say:
The Royal Society and the US National Academy of Sciences released a joint publication today that explains the clear evidence that humans are causing the climate to change, and that addresses a variety of other key questions commonly asked about climate change science.
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Climate Change: Evidence and Causes, written and reviewed by leading experts in both countries, lays out which aspects of climate change are well-understood, and where there is still uncertainty and a need for more research.
Carbon dioxide (CO2) has risen to levels not seen for at least 800,000 years, and observational records dating back to the mid-19th century show a clear, long-term warming trend. The publication explains that measurements that distinguish between the different forms of carbon in the atmosphere provide clear evidence that the increased amount of CO2 comes primarily from the combustion of fossil fuels, and discusses why the warming that has occurred along with the increase in CO2 cannot be explained by natural causes such as variations in the Suns output.
The publication delves into other commonly asked questions about climate change, for example, what the slower rate of warming since the very warm year in 1998 means, and whether and how climate change affects the strength and frequency of extreme weather events.
http://royalsociety.org/news/2014/climate-change-evidence-causes/
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Climate Change: Evidence and Causes, written and reviewed by leading experts in both countries, lays out which aspects of climate change are well-understood, and where there is still uncertainty and a need for more research.
Carbon dioxide (CO2) has risen to levels not seen for at least 800,000 years, and observational records dating back to the mid-19th century show a clear, long-term warming trend. The publication explains that measurements that distinguish between the different forms of carbon in the atmosphere provide clear evidence that the increased amount of CO2 comes primarily from the combustion of fossil fuels, and discusses why the warming that has occurred along with the increase in CO2 cannot be explained by natural causes such as variations in the Suns output.
The publication delves into other commonly asked questions about climate change, for example, what the slower rate of warming since the very warm year in 1998 means, and whether and how climate change affects the strength and frequency of extreme weather events.
http://royalsociety.org/news/2014/climate-change-evidence-causes/
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You can convert methane to Navy distillate using the Fischer-Tropsch process
jmowreader
Apr 2014
#26
Except for Carriers and Submarines, the Navy presently use only oil burning ships
happyslug
Apr 2014
#52
If you're going to do that, you'd be better off putting the fuel maker in its own ship
jmowreader
Apr 2014
#53
If works as they say, I'd say it's safe to assume it will be used in the civilian world too
penultimate
Apr 2014
#4
This isn't it. This is premium-price fuel. $6/gal, accepting their rosy projections. nt
eppur_se_muova
Apr 2014
#47
It's not a 'solution to our energy needs'; you need electricity to run it
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2014
#16
"Inventions" like that come up all the time, reported by less than reputable sources.
pffshht
Apr 2014
#37
If anyone knocked on his door, they didn't know shit about chemistry ...
eppur_se_muova
Apr 2014
#48
From a naval point of view, it allows them to remain at sea longer
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2014
#15
I think they're saying an aircraft carrier could produce fuel for its escort ships (nt)
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2014
#19
About 150 years of science does point to CO2 causing atmospheric warming
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2014
#40
Take a stats class...there is no statistical significance, just a correlation...
hoosierlib
Apr 2014
#41
The warming effect of carbon dioxide is about physics, not statistics
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2014
#42
Specifically, "This suggests other variables (more statistucally significant) influence temperature"
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2014
#59
Are you saying that *you* understand, while the Royal Society and NAS don't?
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2014
#64
So you think you're smarter than every scientist that works at a university anywhere in the world
muriel_volestrangler
Apr 2014
#66
Models are like that, approximations, at best. That doesn't mean they are wrong.
bemildred
Apr 2014
#45
With reactors on board you wouldn't need to go around your elbow with this seawater scheme
jmowreader
Apr 2014
#28
When the present Fracking oil bubble breaks around 2017-2018, $6 a gallon will be cheap.
happyslug
Apr 2014
#54