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The Magistrate

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23. You Offer Only Unsupported Assertion, Sir
Wed Apr 9, 2014, 03:21 PM
Apr 2014

There is nothing remotely resembling proof, of a sort that would be admitted to court or survive in a peer-reviewed journal of history or a thesis presentation, that the United States procured the overthrow of Yanukovyk.

The first overt military move across a border has been made by Russia. You cannot wriggle off this, no matter how you attempt to impersonate jello sliding down a wall in the intensity of your effort to avoid it. Russia has no right to be the economic exploiter of Ukraine, it has no injury justifying resort to invasion if it cannot maintain the position of primary exploiter of Ukraine politically. It is in the position of someone who, told he will not be lent or given a sum of money, and even called an asshole in the bargain, perhaps, resort by pulling a pistol and demanding the sum.

The taking of Crimea by Russia can be given the Nelson eye, but a further invasion into east Ukraine, cannot be. It will overthrow the consensus established after the Second World War, and open the possibility of numerous renewed conflicts in Europe. The responsibility for this will be pinned by history on V. Putin.

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They just had an interesting lesson on force cprise Apr 2014 #1
Just so everyone here remembers the rules . . . another_liberal Apr 2014 #2
Yes dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #3
Oh, they will adopt a different standard for jamzrockz Apr 2014 #4
On the money.... go west young man Apr 2014 #6
Anyone with half a political brain... nyabingi Apr 2014 #5
Has any proof of Greystone's presence been provided? penultimate Apr 2014 #7
I would say these are more legitimate... nyabingi Apr 2014 #21
My opinion isn't formulated based on what Obama, McCain or Clinton say penultimate Apr 2014 #39
I disagree nyabingi Apr 2014 #41
So Is The Disarming Of The Separatists In Donets, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2014 #42
My point is that the US/EU axis is... nyabingi Apr 2014 #46
And That is Nonesense, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2014 #47
This is not nonsense nyabingi Apr 2014 #48
Indeed, Sir: I Can Tell White From Black The Magistrate Apr 2014 #49
When I expressed the above cosmicone Apr 2014 #8
The 'Wants War With Russia' Claim, Sir, Is Too Shabby And False Even To Call Bullshit The Magistrate Apr 2014 #10
Your point fails in that... go west young man Apr 2014 #13
You Offer Only Unsupported Assertion, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2014 #23
As far as your needed proof goes...obviously you haven't been keeping up. go west young man Apr 2014 #24
Again, Sir, The Thing Does Not Come Close To Proving Anything The Magistrate Apr 2014 #34
I love your use of "the thing".... go west young man Apr 2014 #35
You Have Neither Knowledge Nor Evidence, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2014 #36
"we were the ones who fomented the coup d'etat in Ukraine" Bull Shit EX500rider Apr 2014 #30
See the video directly above your post. go west young man Apr 2014 #33
I have and that is ZERO proof of us orchestrating a coup.. EX500rider Apr 2014 #38
Why do Russians have a duty to protect ethnic Russians attempting to secede from Ukraine penultimate Apr 2014 #11
Contiguous borders cosmicone Apr 2014 #12
Ahh, but the action in Granada is generally viewed in a negative light penultimate Apr 2014 #19
And did we keep part or all of Granada? n/t EX500rider Apr 2014 #31
Does the fact that Crimeans... nyabingi Apr 2014 #22
They will do so too . . . another_liberal Apr 2014 #15
It's also bad to make presumptive statements which you can't back up with real facts. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2014 #9
Yeah, that's almost as bad as making unwarrented, generalized accusations with intent to slander. another_liberal Apr 2014 #14
"...when an "interim" Ukrainian government (which is a coup-installed puppet of the West)...." Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2014 #18
My opinions and appreciations . . . another_liberal Apr 2014 #29
protesters vs. mobs jakeXT Apr 2014 #16
If a semantic flip does it for you . . . another_liberal Apr 2014 #17
I think of it as more of a flop. Igel Apr 2014 #25
Quoting your, "spidey sense" . . . another_liberal Apr 2014 #28
One person's protesters are another person's mob cosmicone Apr 2014 #20
say what? lanlady Apr 2014 #26
Exactly this!!! +1000 EX500rider Apr 2014 #32
Uh, he murdered unarmed protesters. joshcryer Apr 2014 #37
This could trigger a military confrontation between Russia & US Semivir Apr 2014 #27
'activists' joshcryer Apr 2014 #40
Yeah, all pretense of who the "activists" and "protesters" really are has since melted away. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2014 #44
Maybe the activists should try burning tires and throwing fireworks in the town center seveneyes Apr 2014 #43
No, they're more of the kidnapping journalists and killing politician types. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2014 #45
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