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lanlady

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26. say what?

Wed Apr 9, 2014, 08:00 PM

Apr 2014

Former prez Yanukovcych was (still is) a mafia henchman who, together with his son, stole millions of dollars in Ukrainian wealth; he had no interest whatsoever in democracy. Along come the youth of Ukraine, fed up with the kleptocracy, to peacefully protest en masse for European reforms. Yanu-cescu, ever the coward, flees to Russia together with his mistress and sacks full of art and antiques (there is video). Victory for the good guys, or at least, the not so bad guys.

Enter Putin who takes advantage of the situation to bus in Russian thugs-for-hire, hand out Russian passports, intimidate and threaten Ukraine, and literally tear it asunder. Neither the Russian language nor Russian ethnicity has ever been oppressed in Ukraine, but never mind: since Putin has managed to stifle all dissent in the Russian media and put his rivals under house arrest, his people will not question his rationale for setting ugly forces loose in a peaceful neighboring country. A country whose people (most of them) want only to live in a normal country with normal rules--not a mafia-run country where the 0.001% sucks up every bit of anything worthwhile.

It really is that simple.

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Ukraine in 48-hour ultimatum to east's pro-Russia activists [View all] dipsydoodle Apr 2014 OP

They just had an interesting lesson on force cprise Apr 2014 #1

Just so everyone here remembers the rules . . . another_liberal Apr 2014 #2

Yes dipsydoodle Apr 2014 #3

Oh, they will adopt a different standard for jamzrockz Apr 2014 #4

On the money.... go west young man Apr 2014 #6

Anyone with half a political brain... nyabingi Apr 2014 #5

Has any proof of Greystone's presence been provided? penultimate Apr 2014 #7

I would say these are more legitimate... nyabingi Apr 2014 #21

My opinion isn't formulated based on what Obama, McCain or Clinton say penultimate Apr 2014 #39

I disagree nyabingi Apr 2014 #41

So Is The Disarming Of The Separatists In Donets, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2014 #42

My point is that the US/EU axis is... nyabingi Apr 2014 #46

And That is Nonesense, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2014 #47

This is not nonsense nyabingi Apr 2014 #48

Indeed, Sir: I Can Tell White From Black The Magistrate Apr 2014 #49

When I expressed the above cosmicone Apr 2014 #8

The 'Wants War With Russia' Claim, Sir, Is Too Shabby And False Even To Call Bullshit The Magistrate Apr 2014 #10

Your point fails in that... go west young man Apr 2014 #13

You Offer Only Unsupported Assertion, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2014 #23

As far as your needed proof goes...obviously you haven't been keeping up. go west young man Apr 2014 #24

Again, Sir, The Thing Does Not Come Close To Proving Anything The Magistrate Apr 2014 #34

I love your use of "the thing".... go west young man Apr 2014 #35

You Have Neither Knowledge Nor Evidence, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2014 #36

"we were the ones who fomented the coup d'etat in Ukraine" Bull Shit EX500rider Apr 2014 #30

See the video directly above your post. go west young man Apr 2014 #33

I have and that is ZERO proof of us orchestrating a coup.. EX500rider Apr 2014 #38

Why do Russians have a duty to protect ethnic Russians attempting to secede from Ukraine penultimate Apr 2014 #11

Contiguous borders cosmicone Apr 2014 #12

Ahh, but the action in Granada is generally viewed in a negative light penultimate Apr 2014 #19

And did we keep part or all of Granada? n/t EX500rider Apr 2014 #31

Does the fact that Crimeans... nyabingi Apr 2014 #22

They will do so too . . . another_liberal Apr 2014 #15

It's also bad to make presumptive statements which you can't back up with real facts. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2014 #9

Yeah, that's almost as bad as making unwarrented, generalized accusations with intent to slander. another_liberal Apr 2014 #14

"...when an "interim" Ukrainian government (which is a coup-installed puppet of the West)...." Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2014 #18

My opinions and appreciations . . . another_liberal Apr 2014 #29

protesters vs. mobs jakeXT Apr 2014 #16

If a semantic flip does it for you . . . another_liberal Apr 2014 #17

I think of it as more of a flop. Igel Apr 2014 #25

Quoting your, "spidey sense" . . . another_liberal Apr 2014 #28

One person's protesters are another person's mob cosmicone Apr 2014 #20

say what? lanlady Apr 2014 #26

Exactly this!!! +1000 EX500rider Apr 2014 #32

Uh, he murdered unarmed protesters. joshcryer Apr 2014 #37

This could trigger a military confrontation between Russia & US Semivir Apr 2014 #27

'activists' joshcryer Apr 2014 #40

Yeah, all pretense of who the "activists" and "protesters" really are has since melted away. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2014 #44

Maybe the activists should try burning tires and throwing fireworks in the town center seveneyes Apr 2014 #43

No, they're more of the kidnapping journalists and killing politician types. Tommy_Carcetti Apr 2014 #45