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131. its completely wrong that the government wont enforce a court order because some guys with guns

Sun Apr 13, 2014, 12:32 AM

Apr 2014

don't agree with the court order.

Regardless if you think that this cattle rancher has a good argument, regardless if you think that no blood should be spilt over cattle grazing on federal land, the point remains that this guy and his armed friends defied a court order.

Look, we may not all agree with the policies and laws of government but that's the reason we have courts.

This guy had an argument, the federal government had their argument, a court decided that their argument was better thus they issued a court order.
Just because this guy does not like the court order, it doesn't mean that the government should let him get away with not complying to that order just because he has mates with guns.

Imagine the next time that a guy gets convicted for a crime and sentenced to jail, then his supporters come in with weapons and argue that the court order is wrong and he better not be locked up.
Do any of you seriously think that the government would decide to not follow through on the court ordered sentence because there might be some bloodshed with his supporters?

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BREAKING NEWS: Major development in Bunkerville cattle battle [View all] Keefer Apr 2014 OP

So does he keep on grazing on our lands? nt WhiteTara Apr 2014 #1

I hope not. Owl Apr 2014 #14

Isn't he entitled to do that? Turbineguy Apr 2014 #42

K & R Thinkingabout Apr 2014 #79

Let's hope yeoman6987 Apr 2014 #126

Why are they coddling this asshole? louis-t Apr 2014 #2

You're overlooking some important facts Orrex Apr 2014 #5

Bingo, bingo, and bingo n/t TroglodyteScholar Apr 2014 #24

I was going to say "bully" WhiteTara Apr 2014 #36

And the governor 2naSalit Apr 2014 #45

Sorry, your fantasy will not be fulfilled. former9thward Apr 2014 #76

What? 2naSalit Apr 2014 #122

I'm sorry, that is just sick, no, sad really coming on this site. GOPee Apr 2014 #121

As I said above... 2naSalit Apr 2014 #123

I think missing in this is an understanding of Nevadans Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #125

This is a good deal. IronGate Apr 2014 #6

Certainly not a great deal if he continues his illegal activities. Owl Apr 2014 #18

Part of the deal... Lancero Apr 2014 #31

I imagine the cattle being sold off will go towards back payments Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2014 #44

None of that is happening. former9thward Apr 2014 #77

No that is not the deal. former9thward Apr 2014 #78

Not negotiate? tazkcmo Apr 2014 #84

That's what happened, negotiations, IronGate Apr 2014 #91

I'm confused. tazkcmo Apr 2014 #92

Militia asshats. IronGate Apr 2014 #94

aaaah, ty n/t tazkcmo Apr 2014 #96

Legit terror threat AnalystInParadise Apr 2014 #7

Or they are retreating because more militia are pouring in from all over the country. This ballyhoo Apr 2014 #10

all 10 of them? n2doc Apr 2014 #46

I suggest you do a little dd..........nft ballyhoo Apr 2014 #62

100. big whoop n2doc Apr 2014 #66

Because it is not worth someone getting killed hack89 Apr 2014 #11

our environment is not worth the fighting for? pitohui Apr 2014 #12

Surely there are other solution besides violence? hack89 Apr 2014 #17

LOL AnalystInParadise Apr 2014 #19

One solution: Eliminate the NTC. Owl Apr 2014 #23

LMAO AnalystInParadise Apr 2014 #39

Don't the Marines have some desert tortoise issues at Twentynine Palms? penultimate Apr 2014 #110

Tortoises at 29 Palms - sometime in the 1980s arthurgoodwin Apr 2014 #136

Excellent. The Federal Government hides ballyhoo Apr 2014 #26

Hypocrisy doesn't make an argument false. cheapdate Apr 2014 #47

Well I reject your rejection AnalystInParadise Apr 2014 #51

He didn't say that. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2014 #54

Thank you. cheapdate Apr 2014 #58

I reject that as well AnalystInParadise Apr 2014 #60

And again, no one denied the hypocrisy. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2014 #90

If you take a minute to read again what I wrote, cheapdate Apr 2014 #57

I believe it does AnalystInParadise Apr 2014 #61

Fair enough...but cheapdate Apr 2014 #70

It might be a good time to find out who all the crazies are. Nobel_Twaddle_III Apr 2014 #27

If your neighbors armed themselves and confronted the police hack89 Apr 2014 #28

Depends on the situation- hillaryfan2016 Apr 2014 #65

Dead cops and dead tea baggers - a perfect combination in your mind? hack89 Apr 2014 #68

Just my opinion... atreides1 Apr 2014 #111

What's wrong with foregoing violence to resolve problems? Nt hack89 Apr 2014 #112

I don't see anything creeksneakers2 Apr 2014 #124

Time will tell. Nt hack89 Apr 2014 #135

Ready the drones bluestateguy Apr 2014 #3

I'm glad that the gov't has come down in favor of the rich white guy for once. Orrex Apr 2014 #4

He's white but is he rich? I didn't see that in the article. I think the reason pnwmom Apr 2014 #32

Not quite Keefer Apr 2014 #38

You're right. I was thinking about the rural parts of the county. n/t pnwmom Apr 2014 #41

Well, he owes taxpayers over a million dollars. Nine Apr 2014 #106

So ,,, Cryptoad Apr 2014 #8

Ahhh, but the AG has insisted that he has extraordinary authority to apply discretion when enforcing 24601 Apr 2014 #55

Quite Cryptoad Apr 2014 #83

Never mentioned China or tea. The administration hasn't released any reason for backing off. My 24601 Apr 2014 #89

I never mention prosecutorial discretion either,,,,, Cryptoad Apr 2014 #116

Selll the cattle and keep the proceeds to pay for 20-years of illegal grazing. Moostache Apr 2014 #9

A bit of history packman Apr 2014 #35

And Major Georgie Patton was there warrant46 Apr 2014 #105

The question I have is what happens when the christx30 Apr 2014 #118

What about Keefer Apr 2014 #13

Wasnt aware of this......another waco in the making Gin Apr 2014 #15

I've seen stranger names. 840high Apr 2014 #20

Just like Johnny Cashs' dad Keefer Apr 2014 #25

When I read the story I thought it said "Cloven" Gin Apr 2014 #33

Hell, I just hope a kid doesn't lose a parent (on either side) due to this guy. WhoWoodaKnew Apr 2014 #16

Ironic... Protest illegal wars and you get maced, tear-gassed, and arrested. Owl Apr 2014 #21

I wonder if this guy is related to Al and Peg Bundy. olddad56 Apr 2014 #22

So, the Occupy Wall Street crowd packman Apr 2014 #29

An honest answer....... ballyhoo Apr 2014 #34

No cop is going to be willing to die to get a park back. n/t christx30 Apr 2014 #74

Feds prolly skeert of the sidearm packin' 'mlisha. Snarkoleptic Apr 2014 #30

Freekin morans! 2naSalit Apr 2014 #48

Twenty teef minimum. AtheistCrusader Apr 2014 #53

20? You mean amongst all of them or each? Thor_MN Apr 2014 #59

+1 lunasun Apr 2014 #129

Nuke 'em! DavidDvorkin Apr 2014 #37

I see this as an opportunity SkatmanRoth Apr 2014 #40

^^THIS^^ 2naSalit Apr 2014 #49

Flypaper jberryhill Apr 2014 #52

Send in national guard with helicopter gunships and tanks cosmicone Apr 2014 #43

Amen to that!! nt 2naSalit Apr 2014 #50

Why waste men and materiel like that? SwankyXomb Apr 2014 #56

Channeling your inner Putin, I see. Codeine Apr 2014 #63

Oh come on cosmicone Apr 2014 #71

Calling for violence in a situation that is being delt with in a nonviolent, ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #67

Non violent way? cosmicone Apr 2014 #72

If we repealed all laws, ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #73

In other words Jake Stern Apr 2014 #75

According to the ACLU, ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #80

I disagree Jake Stern Apr 2014 #85

When we strip away all the social/rhetorical constructs, ZombieHorde Apr 2014 #109

Shoot violence in the fucking face! Throd Apr 2014 #69

None of the "give peace a chance" crew seems to Jake Stern Apr 2014 #81

I share your frustration. Bundy needs to be stepped on---hard. (nt) Paladin Apr 2014 #99

Please don't ask that of our Military cindge Apr 2014 #95

I said national guard. Not military. cosmicone Apr 2014 #107

I understand the role of the National Guard. cindge Apr 2014 #115

taker mtasselin Apr 2014 #64

Yep, he needs to be added Romney's list of takers. Thinkingabout Apr 2014 #87

Glad to hear the government backed down LittleBlue Apr 2014 #82

So you're groovy with theft? Jake Stern Apr 2014 #88

Theft of what? A bunch of brush on barren land? LittleBlue Apr 2014 #97

Once again I turn to the analogy I posted: Jake Stern Apr 2014 #132

Theft of what? IronGate Apr 2014 #98

The federal government owns tens of millions of acres in the west. Paladin Apr 2014 #101

I know what the govt. owns, I live in the west. IronGate Apr 2014 #103

I hope it happens as you predict. We'll see. (nt) Paladin Apr 2014 #104

I agree that we don't need this to end in a blood bath, but an earlier news report I heard had said politicaljunkie41910 Apr 2014 #141

The federal gov't owns nothing... seabeckind Apr 2014 #139

What if these thugs start drilling for oil? cosmicone Apr 2014 #108

Even if these assholes had enough money to drill their own wells, it wouldn't happen. Paladin Apr 2014 #137

Nipping this crap in the bud is worth an armed confrontation. nt Jake Stern Apr 2014 #133

A foolish move by the government if they back down.... Trust Buster Apr 2014 #86

What's to stop these militia nutjobs from pouring into heavily liberal areas during an election? Jake Stern Apr 2014 #93

+1 Dawson Leery Apr 2014 #100

+2. (nt) Paladin Apr 2014 #102

This is better than the complete cave in it sounded like at first Warpy Apr 2014 #113

U.S. Government Caves to Rightwing Nuts... humbled_opinion Apr 2014 #114

That's about all Holder will do. He's great at press conferences. Jake Stern Apr 2014 #134

Note the difference between how this ended and how the government crushed Occupy Wall Street. 6000eliot Apr 2014 #117

Because the conservatives christx30 Apr 2014 #120

Occupy in San Francisco was in the end a homeless camp. Jesus Malverde Apr 2014 #127

With any luck, there will start being "alien abductions"... Thor_MN Apr 2014 #119

what about not paying taxes, would you be allowed to get away with it if you armed yourself. politicman Apr 2014 #128

Spot on underpants Apr 2014 #140

give the range back to the Native Americans joe_stampingbull Apr 2014 #130

its completely wrong that the government wont enforce a court order because some guys with guns politicman Apr 2014 #131

As I looked at this issue seabeckind Apr 2014 #138