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ElboRuum

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24. The point you were making...
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 08:03 PM
Mar 2012

was in response to this paragraph... correct?

"That represents a big savings in social security and medicare no matter how you cut it. So arguing that smokers should pay more because they cost more is just another big lie. Gets tiresome doesn't it? By making smokers pariahs, no one minds if they are forced to pay a huge dishonest "health" tax on each pack, a burden that fast food afficionados bypass....pardon the pun. Smoking is a huge cash cow for both state and federal government. If people are growing and rolling their own that is a huge chunk of change they will be missing."

And since in most areas of the country, laws are in place to keep smoking away from non-smokers, is your assertion of smoker's contributions to non-smoker's health problems even vaguely true insofar as they once were?

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I expect if cannabis is ever legalized this kind of crap will become the norm tridim Mar 2012 #1
Yea, if they could only figure out a way to stop the home grown stuff nolabels Mar 2012 #2
Home Grown Tobacco? Trillo Mar 2012 #26
This is the kind of bad idea that fuels the right's eyewall Mar 2012 #3
see if there is a way to make this bite them back. indivisibleman Mar 2012 #4
Big tobacco and big government joined hands for this one.... Bozvotros Mar 2012 #5
Secondhand smoke harms nonsmokers CreekDog Mar 2012 #10
Oh please. ElboRuum Mar 2012 #19
why are you writing this to me? your message has nothing to do with mine CreekDog Mar 2012 #20
The point you were making... ElboRuum Mar 2012 #24
the law doesn't keep smokers away from nonsmokers --it keeps them apart in a few places CreekDog Mar 2012 #25
Wait a minute ElboRuum Mar 2012 #27
what are you disagreeing with me on? CreekDog Mar 2012 #30
Uh.. that first part. ElboRuum Mar 2012 #31
this kind of underhanded, slimy, "earmark" legislation should be a felony 2banon Mar 2012 #6
I'm with you - vote by issue socialindependocrat Mar 2012 #8
Line item veto? CreekDog Mar 2012 #11
It has more to do about lost revenues in NY State RYO is on the radar soon.. Historic NY Mar 2012 #7
Corruption. Call it what it is. Our country is BOUGHT. dorksied Mar 2012 #9
I have mixed feelings about this Major Nikon Mar 2012 #12
We need an Occupy the Amendment process nanabugg Mar 2012 #13
When You have a Fascist Government ChunderingTruth Mar 2012 #14
Are they talking about one of these ? dipsydoodle Mar 2012 #15
The ones I used back in the day only cost a buck: IDemo Mar 2012 #16
Back in the 70's dipsydoodle Mar 2012 #17
The plastic rolling machines they sell today only cost $1.49 tridim Mar 2012 #18
No, one of these: Spider Jerusalem Mar 2012 #21
Nope. One of these... rucky Mar 2012 #22
Wait, I thought we were supposed to be against tobacco in general or is that only when it cstanleytech Mar 2012 #23
Who told you that? ElboRuum Mar 2012 #28
"I always thought we were supposed to do our own thinking..." cstanleytech Mar 2012 #29
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