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ElboRuum

(4,717 posts)
27. Wait a minute
Mon Mar 19, 2012, 10:00 PM
Mar 2012

They already are encouraged to quit. Encouraged by onerous regressive taxation. Taxation which is a total cash cow for the governments which implement them and, like all regressive taxation, harms the poorest of us the most. So how's that for a mixed message? Out of one side of their mouths they say we should quit, and out the other, they pray we don't lest all that money goes away.

I understand (and support) making law which protects the health of non-smokers, however, I do not and never will support any form of taxation whose intent is punitive against a legal act, whose method is regressive, and whose implementation is so onerous as to be burdensome. You say "encouraged", I say "coerced".

P.S. the health care system is paid for, as it stands now, entirely by the people who use it, whether entirely by themselves or in the form of benefits (which is usually in lieu of greater wages). So until we get that single-payer thing going, well, smokers are no burden on THAT system either.

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I expect if cannabis is ever legalized this kind of crap will become the norm tridim Mar 2012 #1
Yea, if they could only figure out a way to stop the home grown stuff nolabels Mar 2012 #2
Home Grown Tobacco? Trillo Mar 2012 #26
This is the kind of bad idea that fuels the right's eyewall Mar 2012 #3
see if there is a way to make this bite them back. indivisibleman Mar 2012 #4
Big tobacco and big government joined hands for this one.... Bozvotros Mar 2012 #5
Secondhand smoke harms nonsmokers CreekDog Mar 2012 #10
Oh please. ElboRuum Mar 2012 #19
why are you writing this to me? your message has nothing to do with mine CreekDog Mar 2012 #20
The point you were making... ElboRuum Mar 2012 #24
the law doesn't keep smokers away from nonsmokers --it keeps them apart in a few places CreekDog Mar 2012 #25
Wait a minute ElboRuum Mar 2012 #27
what are you disagreeing with me on? CreekDog Mar 2012 #30
Uh.. that first part. ElboRuum Mar 2012 #31
this kind of underhanded, slimy, "earmark" legislation should be a felony 2banon Mar 2012 #6
I'm with you - vote by issue socialindependocrat Mar 2012 #8
Line item veto? CreekDog Mar 2012 #11
It has more to do about lost revenues in NY State RYO is on the radar soon.. Historic NY Mar 2012 #7
Corruption. Call it what it is. Our country is BOUGHT. dorksied Mar 2012 #9
I have mixed feelings about this Major Nikon Mar 2012 #12
We need an Occupy the Amendment process nanabugg Mar 2012 #13
When You have a Fascist Government ChunderingTruth Mar 2012 #14
Are they talking about one of these ? dipsydoodle Mar 2012 #15
The ones I used back in the day only cost a buck: IDemo Mar 2012 #16
Back in the 70's dipsydoodle Mar 2012 #17
The plastic rolling machines they sell today only cost $1.49 tridim Mar 2012 #18
No, one of these: Spider Jerusalem Mar 2012 #21
Nope. One of these... rucky Mar 2012 #22
Wait, I thought we were supposed to be against tobacco in general or is that only when it cstanleytech Mar 2012 #23
Who told you that? ElboRuum Mar 2012 #28
"I always thought we were supposed to do our own thinking..." cstanleytech Mar 2012 #29
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