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harmonicon

(12,008 posts)
16. I'm afraid that telling the truth isn't a con game.
Tue Mar 20, 2012, 08:10 PM
Mar 2012

I'm not sure what an "Apple defender" would be, but I don't think that's what I am. I certainly don't own an ipad and don't think I would ever buy one, no matter the cost.

I assume the computer you're using to post here was made in one of those old mom and pop ye olde timey computer places in the US with a nice hand-crafted processor and memory sticks with lovely filigree that only good ol' mom could add. Computers are made in countries with different labour laws than the US, no matter what brand. This is because this is how capitalism operates. If you want to get rid of capitalism, I'm with you. If you want corporations which function to make a profit to give that up in order to make you feel great about using the collection of plastics and metals to forego making profits, you are dreaming.

Riddle me this: if it's really working conditions and wages that you care about, why are you not arguing for all US manufacturing to move to Europe? Western Europe certainly has better wages and working conditions than the US. Clearly we should stop all manufacturing here until we can meet the world's highest standard.

Ok, work with that, and now follow me one step more: in ten years, China will be Apple's largest market.

After saying that you understand the difference between the company and the companies it contracts with, you seem to think that Apple would hire more people if they contracted with manufacturers outside of China. To go on with the trope of using all capitals which you've engaged in here: FAIL.

Basically, you're just missing the point and fail to see just how much your world-view is skewed by right-wing capitalist propaganda. It is not the responsibility of companies to determine what people are paid. If it was, US manufacturing would be on the same level as Chinese, as would the living and working conditions. It is up to governments to create laws regulating these things. This is the nature of the regulated capitalist system we live in.

Personally, I think wages and working conditions should be improved for workers all over the world. I am not, however, expecting corporations to make this happen.

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Additionally, tariff products coming from China, made for American companies. onehandle Mar 2012 #1
onehandle, I agree with you.....n/t prairierose Mar 2012 #2
98 Billion or something in savings for Apple? SamG Mar 2012 #7
Hi there. Welcome to capitalism. harmonicon Mar 2012 #13
I have my facts straight, you can throw all the legal SamG Mar 2012 #14
I'm afraid that telling the truth isn't a con game. harmonicon Mar 2012 #16
Post removed Post removed Mar 2012 #21
Looking at someone's profile is your friend. harmonicon Mar 2012 #24
May I ask what is competitive about two countries with dramatically different standards... joshcryer Mar 2012 #18
Nice. joshcryer Mar 2012 #17
Now if the tariffs would just go to subsidize American manufacturers getting started... saras Mar 2012 #3
Yes! More of that please! nt SunSeeker Mar 2012 #4
unless the U.S. also subsidizes PV manufacturers, this will simply drive up the cost... mike_c Mar 2012 #5
Switch the subsidies we give oil companies to solar and other SamG Mar 2012 #8
Considering that the polysilicon supplyer MEMC kentauros Mar 2012 #10
Repugs are fighting anything to reduce oil consumption julian09 Mar 2012 #15
Solar panels are made by machines for the most part. joshcryer Mar 2012 #19
We'd have to give those U.S. manufacturers a pass on environmental regulations, amandabeech Mar 2012 #27
Well, did somone get a clue at the Commerce Department? fasttense Mar 2012 #6
Especially the junk items. None of us need more junk. jwirr Mar 2012 #9
Another win for the Corporations......... MindMover Mar 2012 #11
This will probably result in the US using poorer solar panels FarCenter Mar 2012 #12
China massively subsidized their solar industry, though. joshcryer Mar 2012 #20
The labor isn't in the making of the solar cells FarCenter Mar 2012 #25
Keep after it! lonestarnot Mar 2012 #22
GE Builds Solar Factory in China markmyword Mar 2012 #23
I like this ....Want more......n/t Tippy Mar 2012 #26
Spam deleted by OKNancy (MIR Team) hmmy786 May 2012 #28
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