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JoePhilly

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17. Actually, in your example ... your employee might be able to sue you.
Thu Apr 24, 2014, 12:29 PM
Apr 2014

Let's say you work for me. I have a construction company and I sub-contract some areas, like plumbing. You are my employee, and you get one of the sub-contractors I use to help you do renovations on your home. That arrangement is 100% between you and that sub. My business is not involved.

Now, if you and that sub-contractor get into a dispute over who owes who ... I am not involved in any way. And, if I include bonuses as part of your total compensation, and that bonus is based on your performance as my employee, that money is yours, and I can not withhold it from you if you and that sub contract have a dispute. My business is not part of it.

Now, back to the government. If an IRS employee is having a dispute over how much taxes they have paid, you can't withhold their earnings. Or, I guess we think the government should be able to just stop paying them altogether. The bonus is part of their total compensation. You can no more withhold that, they you can stop paying their medical benefits that are also part of the job.

To do so is basically extortion.

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I don't understand why they are getting bonuses at all ebbie15644 Apr 2014 #1
Because they are competing with the private sector for talent. joeglow3 Apr 2014 #2
How many people in the private sector are getting bonuses these days? Psephos Apr 2014 #10
I am a tax accountant and a LOT are joeglow3 Apr 2014 #13
People at the IRS could not get similar jobs in the private sector. former9thward Apr 2014 #24
Bull shit they couldn't joeglow3 Apr 2014 #31
I will give you my experience with IRS employees. former9thward Apr 2014 #33
I will give you my experience with IRS employees. joeglow3 Apr 2014 #36
So only the Fortune 500 gets "best and the brightest". former9thward Apr 2014 #38
The Fortune 500 are the best tax cheats hack89 Apr 2014 #40
So, ALL IRS agents are mouth breathing morons joeglow3 Apr 2014 #41
You are the only one in this thread to use the word "moron". former9thward Apr 2014 #42
You said they were ONLY qualified to work for the Service (and my company). joeglow3 Apr 2014 #43
Sorry I am not in the name calling business. former9thward Apr 2014 #45
No. You just describe what you think of them. joeglow3 Apr 2014 #46
I did not describe what I thought of them. former9thward Apr 2014 #47
What did you mean when you said they were qualified to work nowhere else? joeglow3 Apr 2014 #48
I will tell you when you cut and paste showing I made that statement. former9thward Apr 2014 #49
OK wickerwoman Apr 2014 #50
That is not the statement you posted. former9thward Apr 2014 #51
Alternately, wickerwoman Apr 2014 #52
I have had a conversation with one poster. former9thward Apr 2014 #54
Keep spinning joeglow3 Apr 2014 #53
I am not trying to "talk my way out of it". former9thward Apr 2014 #55
You are absolutely amazing. joeglow3 Apr 2014 #57
You continue to make stuff up. former9thward Apr 2014 #58
You are free to use common sense joeglow3 Apr 2014 #59
I found another company where ex agents work joeglow3 Apr 2014 #62
Well you are correct that the F 500 are snatching up the bright people. former9thward Apr 2014 #63
My tax attorney is a former IRS agent jberryhill Apr 2014 #34
See post #33 former9thward Apr 2014 #35
More than 100,000 people work for the IRS. wickerwoman Apr 2014 #39
A lot do leave joeglow3 Apr 2014 #44
1000 dollars a head .. bonus based on performance not owed taxes... why is this even a news item? srican69 Apr 2014 #3
Because it's an excuse to crap on government employees? wickerwoman Apr 2014 #11
+1 nt Live and Learn Apr 2014 #21
Boy, ain't that the truth. Le Taz Hot Apr 2014 #22
You could look at it that way... sendero Apr 2014 #23
They do. wickerwoman Apr 2014 #37
and that's over a two year period Enrique Apr 2014 #18
I would feel insulted if my manager gave me a $1000 bonus.. srican69 Apr 2014 #19
I'm sure they will be returning the bonus. former9thward Apr 2014 #25
I'm sure that *every* DUer would be *deeply* insulted by a $1000 bonus. (nt) Nye Bevan Apr 2014 #56
they should be ..if they routinely work long hours without overtime srican69 Apr 2014 #61
Scratching my head over this one too jberryhill Apr 2014 #27
I had a dispute with the IRS a few years back ... should my company have withheld my JoePhilly Apr 2014 #4
If one of my collection employees owed money to a subcontractor of ours Bonduel Apr 2014 #14
Totally different situation. Government is not involved. JoePhilly Apr 2014 #15
and your example above is a different situation as well Bonduel Apr 2014 #16
Actually, in your example ... your employee might be able to sue you. JoePhilly Apr 2014 #17
Well I don't know what their bonus situation is Bonduel Apr 2014 #28
So will Fox news be celebrating these patriots? MattP Apr 2014 #5
Sounds like this came from FOX news meanit Apr 2014 #6
this LBN post is a mess and the link doesn't work CreekDog Apr 2014 #7
Yeah, that is weird. Dr. Strange Apr 2014 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author William769 Apr 2014 #9
Well, that's just stupid. Pterodactyl Apr 2014 #12
why is everyone in Washington so out of touch? Supersedeas May 2014 #64
Because they are not held accountable. Pterodactyl May 2014 #65
some corporation better not be havin' dreams of a private 'for profit' IRS. That would be worse than Sunlei Apr 2014 #20
What does one have to do with the other? jberryhill Apr 2014 #26
Agree. As pointed out upthread ... SomeGuyInEagan Apr 2014 #30
Could Bundy have gotten away with it if he was an IRS agent? darkangel218 Apr 2014 #29
Wages Calista241 Apr 2014 #32
I owed back taxes, they took my refund until DiverDave Apr 2014 #60
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