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41. I disagree

Tue Apr 29, 2014, 09:24 AM

Apr 2014

It's unfortunate that the right sector played such a visible role, but the current government have taken steps to minimalize their influence.

The current government in Kiev is doing nothing to disarm and limit the actions of Right Sector, and in fact, they have been recruiting more members, moved their "headquarters" to the east of the country in order to properly bash some pro-Russian heads, and have been involved in violence against protesters. The disarmament of groups like Right Sector was one of the requirements set forth by Russia in the agreement they reached with the US and EU, but the western powers have yet to address it (while continuing to accuse the Russians of not doing their part).

I'm not defending Yanukovich - he was as corrupt a president as many others are - but I do condemn our government's loose interpretation of "democracy" as how it is easily discarded if the people of a given country don't like whom we like.

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And That is Nonesense, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2014 #47

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You Offer Only Unsupported Assertion, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2014 #23

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I love your use of "the thing".... go west young man Apr 2014 #35

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